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Suicide and Philosophy
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I'm writing my will, I say it's a will. It's a bit informal on that account. Just a final message in case.
The story behind this is that I tried to kill myself about 2 weeks ago, using the high speed train method. The reason I stopped was because I had no final message.
That incident in its self was due to hard times at home, but last night I dropped 2 packs of paracetamol because I was bored. I threw them back up when sense kicked in about half an hour later. It made me quite worried afterwards that I would do that so easily. I wasn't that upset. I came to the conclusion that the reason why I may be so easily seduced by suicide is down to my philosophy on life and death. I believe in reincarnation, but not with all that karma stuff, just our spirits go into another body. I see it as an easy way out. There is not alot of stuff I value in the world at the moment, and killing yourself seems like fun. Like a reset button.
The question I really want to know is it immoral to kill yourself for fun and release? I really would like to, but I don't think its fair on anyone who has a relationship with me. Should I be selfish or not. I mean, after all does it matter what they feel if I'm in another life? Should I be able to decide whether I live or die?
The story behind this is that I tried to kill myself about 2 weeks ago, using the high speed train method. The reason I stopped was because I had no final message.
That incident in its self was due to hard times at home, but last night I dropped 2 packs of paracetamol because I was bored. I threw them back up when sense kicked in about half an hour later. It made me quite worried afterwards that I would do that so easily. I wasn't that upset. I came to the conclusion that the reason why I may be so easily seduced by suicide is down to my philosophy on life and death. I believe in reincarnation, but not with all that karma stuff, just our spirits go into another body. I see it as an easy way out. There is not alot of stuff I value in the world at the moment, and killing yourself seems like fun. Like a reset button.
The question I really want to know is it immoral to kill yourself for fun and release? I really would like to, but I don't think its fair on anyone who has a relationship with me. Should I be selfish or not. I mean, after all does it matter what they feel if I'm in another life? Should I be able to decide whether I live or die?
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If you have a life you shouldn't waste it....just my oppinion.
Do you want to just curl up and die till it feels better or do you want to die forever?
You can start over without killing yourself.
If you kill yourself, you wont be able to start afresh. Theres no evidence for reincarnation. im not saying it doesnt happen, but just that its a crap reason to end your life, thinking you can just come back as someone/something else.
Although I don't think that trespassers on railway tracks should be stopped for. Dumb fucks.
As far as starting over is concerned, I can't because alot of the reasons why I'm not that happy are out of my control.
Evidence wise, there isn't much evidence on dying and staying dead either, nor going to heaven or hell. It would be interesting to explore, but you wouldn't be able to tell anyone what you find.
Stand up.
Now.
This is all hypothetical, I'm not going to kill myself tonight or anything. Just wondered what people thought about if its ok to do it depending on what you believe.
you know your living and thats all.
you base your ideas of what will happen after you stop living on nothing aT ALL.
most of the evidence seems to point to the fact that you will turn to dust.
itd be a different brain, different way of thinking etc... you wouldnt remember your old self, it wouldnt exactly be a new start to how you are now... you couldnt remake the decisions that you felt you made wrongly.. as things would be totally different.
i'll bet most of you believe in the theory of evolution ...
so if life on this planet is an accidental meeting and mixing of chemicals ...please don't stretch it to the fact that these chemicals accidently designed another you ...and somewhere nice and cosy to live after death ...and even the means of transport to get you there pleeease!
just a theory, like religion... nothing has been proven to me either way, so id consider myself agnostic...
I think "evolution" is too tidy a story and nothing accidental could have created the human body, food chains and survival techniques implanted in all living things. I can't say what did/didn't happen as I wasn't there, but I think there was more to it than that.
As for reincarnation I wouldn't rule it out, but I certainly wouldn't use it as a way of starting over. Im doing that without dying (at least I'm attempting to), and yeah its tough but i know I'll know how to do it if I ever need to again and I will learn the leasons along the way.
this belief seems to be ingrained in most humans ...in all societies through the ages.
we are the most amazing thing yet discovered in the universe ...the only life form on the planet that has choice.
that to me makes humans very special ...unique even.
thats why i personaly believe in creation by a creator.
thats why suicide to me is wrong.
but for you people who don't believe ...do what you must.
thats why you have to live your life to the fullest, enjoy it as much as you can and do as much as possible.
I feel for you if things are down at the moment, but they are not that bad that you should put your family and friends through that, imo thats very selfish.
As other people have said, if you want a change then do something about it, dont kill yourself. Only you have the power to make yourself happy and make your life better!
I count myself very lucky for being here and im going to make sure I make the most of it!