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I'm actually quite sick of the double standards around, and since there is no end in sight to the prohibition laws regarding drugs I might as well start campaigning for the illegalisation of alcohol and cigarettes. If I can't enjoy the recreational substance of my choice legally, I don't see why others should be allowed to enjoy theirs.
aye well your 'views' make you out to be nothing short of a stuck up cunt
have you not realised your attitude seems makes you a very dislikeable person ?
Yawn.
You've been given enough valid points and arguments to debate upon. But you step around them and continue to bleat.
Why?
What are the main problems caused by drugs? Now ask yourself how law affects these problems.
Well fucking said! :thumb:
I'm sick and tired of hearing these wankers who think they know what they're talking about when they quite clearly doesn't. The people who thinks ecstacy pills and joints are killers, that they will be the downfall of society. Stargalaxy is one. He hears what he says on the news and papers and believes it all.
SG-here's a starter point in your education of drugs www.erowid.org
(1) Would the number of people using these drugs change?
(2) No one under 16 can legally buy tobacco, for instance. Would you like to see some sort of limit like that on these other substances too? Alright, I'll look at it now.
Probably rise a little. But why is that a problem? People being able to do safer drugs, without the risk of prosecution.
Of course.
Check out the ecstasy rising thread in drugs. Good introduction to the ecstasy debate.
Yes, most likely the numbers would go down I don't have the figures at hand but in Netherlands where cannabis is legal in certain shops, there are less teenage smokers of the drug there than the UK. In the US during Prohibition era alochol usage rocketed with the creation of speakeasys and guess who controlled them, mafia criminals. Just like the criminals who control the market today.
(2) No one under 16 can legally buy tobacco, for instance. Would you like to see some sort of limit like that on these other substances too? [/QUOTE]
Yes, cigarettes are a lot more dangerous than a lot of drugs. As is alcohol.
Hard to say. I doubt it would change significantly. I'd still rather have young people buying drugs from Boots rather than a dealer though.
Yes, definitely. A limit on quantities (i.e. control) would be beneficial as well.
one of the key points for me is that alot of people die from bad mixes of drugs every year,surly this has to a consideration for the "lock em up" brigade?
legalisation would go a long way imo
doesnt matter if you are pro smoking or anti smoking, smoking in a public area can damage someone else, the effects of a pill only affect the user, not putting any members of public at risk to the physical effects exerted by the pill or drug in question
where as smoking can and does damage other people
I just want to be clear about this because the more this is debated the more its getting confusing which drugs count and which dont.
I'll ask you again - what laws aren't being enforced?
And if they do eradicate it from public area, should we do the same for drugs if we legalise them? make them only for use in the home?
Passive smoking harms people. Just give smokable drugs the same restrictions as cigarettes. Not in pubs etc. Is this not simple?
If the new legislation is to be upheld in conjuction with the legalisation of drugs, then cannabis (and anything else requiring substantial smoking) would logically be on par with cigarettes. Although the physical health effects are a matter for debate the smoke is too pungent to be filling pubs etc. Establishment of a Dutch-style coffee culture would be sensible.
There is obviously no reason for similar restrictions on powders, pills etc.
Turned out to be an interesting thread, this one.
You would be able to, unlike now, seperate recreational drug users away from potentially addictive drugs like crack and heroin.
So when debating it we have to look at the two issues seperately.
Recreational drugs should be sold in controlled doses to people who are given clear and simple information about the drug.
Addicts and those with problematic use should be given subsitute prescriptions (such as heroin), residential help and good quality help quiting.