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Best place to live when at Uni?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    In other words, you're a cheapskate. Yup... :rolleyes:
    how the fuck am i supposed to save up money for travelling if i'm paying 250quid a month on rent??
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lipsy wrote:
    how the fuck am i supposed to save up money for travelling if i'm paying 250quid a month on rent??
    By not wasting your money on travelling? I don't understand why anybody wants to do that, other than delaying the date they start work.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    By not wasting your money on travelling? I don't understand why anybody wants to do that, other than delaying the date they start work.
    to see the world perhaps?? to broaden my horizons? you don't even know what i'm going to be doing when i'm out there seeing new countries and cultures. i'm actually planning on teaching english as a foreign language.
    and theres plenty of time to get on the corporate ladder.

    do you have any idea how dull you sound on these boards?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Moving back home after finishing uni doesn't make you a cheapskate. I'll be doing it to get enough money together for a deposit for a house, and pouring money away renting isn't the easiest way to go about it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    By not wasting your money on travelling? I don't understand why anybody wants to do that, other than delaying the date they start work.

    I can tell you've never travelled far.

    It's normally a good idea to move home, unless you have something keeping you in that city. My bank balance and credit card wouldn't be so shite if I had.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    It's normally a good idea to move home, unless you have something keeping you in that city. My bank balance and credit card wouldn't be so shite if I had.
    I suppose it depends what you have to go back to.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I read the other day more and more people are staying at home and goint to uni in their home towns coz its too expensive to live otherwise.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Walkindude wrote:
    I read the other day more and more people are staying at home and goint to uni in their home towns coz its too expensive to live otherwise.
    This is what the Beeb said. I should have threaded this but for some reason decided against it. The survey was done by Sodexho (a catering firm) covering 2,200 students. They came up with these results...

    - A fifth of students are now shunning the traditional university lifestyle, living instead at home.
    - 80% of these at home are paying no rent.
    - They are FIVE times as likely to have part-time paid employment.
    - 67% of those who live at home NEVER join in with campus social activities.

    Other findings...
    - 21% of students saying they never drank alcohol.
    - 33% of British students work during term time (60% of these doing between 11 and 35 hours a week)
    - 50% of students live on £50 or less per week.
    - 10% manage on less than £20 per week.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If that's true then, my God, what is the world coming to??! :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    By not wasting your money on travelling? I don't understand why anybody wants to do that, other than delaying the date they start work.

    I pity you, if you have that kind of outlook on things.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If that's true then, my God, what is the world coming to??! :(
    Some of the findings are a bit on the odd side. I mean, 21% of students not drinking any alcohol isn't the most easy to believe of statistics.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Key quotes from that article:
    They are missing out on the wider aspects of a university education while better-off undergraduates can spread their wings and whoop it up a little with their peers.
    , said she was not surprised more students were studying closer to home considering the "huge expense" of rent and bills on top of tuition fees and other basic living costs.

    She said: "Our concerns are that these students are choosing an institution which might not be suitable for their needs or aspirations just because it is close to home.

    "How are these students going to learn the 'soft skills' that graduate recruiters were bemoaning only a few months ago when they are stuck on a train trying to get to their lecture?"
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lipsy wrote:
    Key quotes from that article:
    In a sense, I can see why they do this. The idea of getting thousands of pounds into debt terrifies me. If they want to try and keep their debt levels down, I don't especially blame them. If the university nearest to home is indeed the best one for someone, excellent. At the time in my LiveJournal, I noted;
    These [the Sodexho survery] are some interesting trends, and I do wonder how much the new policy of tuition fees is going to affect matters. Looking at the findings, it appears to be changing things already. It seems there’s now a group of students who are deeply concerned about about being lumbered with debts when they graduate. I can totally understand why they’re living at home and choosing to do anything to save money - but ask yourselves, can happiness really be rated by money alone?
    That said, I really don't blame them for deciding not to go for the traditional lifestyle.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yup

    Its a damn shame you have to move out, get into debt, party constantly, drink excessively and throw yourself into partying (even if thats not you at all), just to fit in and make new friends.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Walkindude wrote:
    Its a damn shame you have to move out, get into debt, party constantly, drink excessively and throw yourself into partying (even if thats not you at all), just to fit in and make new friends.
    It seems these days, if you don't get shamelessly drunk at parties and end up having an orgy with 100 people, you're dismissed as boring. Frankly, I find the concept of getting drunk for the sake of it boring. What's the point of going to some event if you won't be able to remember a thing of it the following morning? I'm not a party animal, and I'm glad of it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    It seems these days, if you don't get shamelessly drunk at parties and end up having an orgy with 100 people, you're dismissed as boring.
    Now come on, that's a bit of an exagguration. The last orgy I went to only had 24 girls...
    Frankly, I find the concept of getting drunk for the sake of it boring. What's the point of going to some event if you won't be able to remember a thing of it the following morning? I'm not a party animal, and I'm glad of it.
    Seriously though, you don't HAVE to get so drunk you can't remember it the next day. It is possible to drink without getting paralytic (or so my dad tells me). The only reason you find it boring is because you haven't experienced it properly - drinking to get drunk can be lots of fun if you're with friends at uni.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Now come on, that's a bit of an exagguration. The last orgy I went to only had 24 girls...
    OK, maybe it was an exaggeration, but you see my point.
    Seriously though, you don't HAVE to get so drunk you can't remember it the next day. It is possible to drink without getting paralytic (or so my dad tells me). The only reason you find it boring is because you haven't experienced it properly - drinking to get drunk can be lots of fun if you're with friends at uni.
    Partly that, and partly the fact I can't drink a thing at the moment without getting violently sick - my meds simply won't have any of it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Walkindude wrote:
    Yup

    Its a damn shame you have to move out, get into debt, party constantly, drink excessively and throw yourself into partying (even if thats not you at all), just to fit in and make new friends.

    That's not true.
    Yes, it is something you see frequently, and yes it would be easier mentioning who doesn't drink, rather than the ones who do - but still, drinking and going out has got nothing to do with fidning friends and fitting in.
    There is such a high and varied amount of people, you're almost bound to find someone you share your interests with.

    I had a pretty long patch last term where i didn't go out clubbing, while most of my friends did. It didn't make them abandon me, and it didn't mean that I was seen as unsociable. At the end of the day, I was still the one who was referred to as the one "knowing everyone, and constantly meeting new people".

    That said, nights out are great. And there are so many varied types of clubs, and venues - most people are bound to find someplace that suits them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think it's really important to leave home when you go to uni. even though you'll probably be a bit poorer if you move away, you'll be richer in terms of experiences and more mature in terms of attitude, i reckon.

    So true and the best bit of advice here!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Just wanted to say that halls are not for everyone. They can be very noisy and not everyone likes that sort of communal living with so many regulations. It can also be difficult to get out of halls if you do decide it’s not for you as they often make you sign up for a whole year.

    It’s perfectly possible to live at home or in a private flat and still make friends at university. There are societies and you will meet people on your course.

    I think nowadays you will find because of money problems and more mature students, there will be a lot of students who don’t fit the mould of typical 18 year old living away from home for the first time. On my course there were people living at home with parents, people living alone, people living with boyfriends and people in halls or shared houses.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    In other words, you're a cheapskate. Yup... :rolleyes:


    where is it you live now, stargalaxy? at home? have a job do you?

    lipsy is NOT a cheapskate for wanting to go home after uni to save up/look for a job or whatever she's choosing to do. don't be such a moose.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well, the figures put up showed what was happening and the disbelief on here that there are people that don't drinbk proves it.

    You have to move away and you have to go out an dstuff, at least in your first year.

    Uni is great but its not a golden heaven to everyone.

    Bfore the boards of Leeds uni's student uniion website were shut down, there was quite a long thread or 2 about how hunhappy some pople were a t uniu, persnal accounts.

    The student oficers didn't take notice, only hsouted people down and hleped their friends out.

    In my 2nd year of rinstance, I joined the Rock Society, the socitey for rock music. I went on their big night out and met some people. I went on a night out, maybe 2 with the same few people I was talking to and it was cool. Then one night they asked me out but I couldn't go. i didn't ignroe them or owt and just said I couldn't go out thatnight. I never heard from them again, despite me txting them and such. Also I recieved an email from the socitey itself about the society and it said if you don't go to shitloads of gigs and hundreds of cds, and thats an exact quote, then the society isn't for you. A big fuck off basically.

    In my first year I signed on to do fencing, they said they'd send an email with details and such. never did.

    People talk in seminars and such and then you may never see them again.

    You make friends with who you live with. Students wnat nigths out all the time. Everytime I get th ebus near uni, without fail I overhear a mobile convo or something about them going out that night or not that that night but the next night and such. People go out every week and such. Drink is a big motiveator of the student and its popular. If you dont drink loads, that tales out a common topic of convo.

    Its just facts I am afraid.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I wouldn't take your examples as something that is commonplace though. My experience of the university clubs and societies has been amazing. And this year I haven't even been socialising as much, due to heavier workload and lack of money. But I still have a lot of friends through these different groups.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah coz you got them all in your first year. You don't meet anyone in your first year, then unlikley your gonna pick up best friends for life in your second and third year, as the potentials already have their friends.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    By not wasting your money on travelling? I don't understand why anybody wants to do that, other than delaying the date they start work.

    What a sad and daft thing to say.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah coz you got them all in your first year. You don't meet anyone in your first year, then unlikley your gonna pick up best friends for life in your second and third year, as the potentials already have their friends.

    Thats not true. I'm in my final year and all my best friends exept for 1 now are people that i met in second year and even some this year. In first year most of my friends were from halls. We had some fun times but they were more people to go out and get drunk with rather than people who i would be friends with for life. In the last couple of years i've met other people , mainly from societies and extra-curricular activities, who i have so much more in common with.

    Also, saying 'the potentials already have their friends' indicates that you believe once people have friends they won't consider making additional ones. I think you'll find very few people actually have that attitude.

    The earlier comments about having to go out and get drunk to make friends are also untrue. There's a difference between not drinking but still having a good time and joining in extra-curricular activities etc., and being a total recluse. True, the majority of students like getting drunk but that doesn't mean if you prefer not to drink you're regarded as a social outcast.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well you may not be regarded as a social outcast by EVERYONE but finding people that don't think that way is hard.

    Well at my uni that was exactly how it was, people made there mates in the first year and they didn't wnat real new frineds in later years, they chatted to people yeah but that was it. Even people joing in from abroad, they were in their 3rd year but their 1st year here. They made friends with the lived in people and thats it.

    Some unis maybe different to mine I don't know. But al I am saying is what my experience was and what others experience was coz I read about it or they told me.

    Also the social activites and socities are a nice idea but at my uni they were expensive and hard to get into as well.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    where is it you live now, stargalaxy? at home? have a job, do you? lipsy is NOT a cheapskate... blah blah blah... stargalaxy stops caring what "the" devil thinks...
    Moving onto a real poster...
    Walkindude wrote:
    Well at my uni that was exactly how it was, people made their mates in the first year and they didn't want real new frineds in later years, they chatted to people yeah but that was it. Even people joing in from abroad, they were in their 3rd year but their 1st year here. They made friends with the lived in people and thats it.
    I saw a similar attitude at college. In the first few weeks, people were shuffling round madly trying to make friends. It's almost as if an attitude of "well, if I manage to make some friends now, I won't have to worry about in the next few years" exists.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Everynight I go out I have the intention of making new friends.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    turlough wrote:
    Every night I go out I have the intention of making new friends.
    That seems a reasonable way to go about things.
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