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Hotel chain taking action against smoking ban
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I think is outragous. Surely people having to put up with peoples disgusting habit of smoking and breathing in other peoples smoke etc is againts human rights too?
I think is outragous. Surely people having to put up with peoples disgusting habit of smoking and breathing in other peoples smoke etc is againts human rights too?
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I quite agree. Having to breathe in smoke would be a terrible thing. Of course, there is nowhere that you have to in this man's hotels because you don't have to go into them. If you don't like it, pay to sleep somewhere else.
Why should non smokers have to go other places in order to aviod being intoxicated by other peoples smoke?
Anyone who claims is disturbed or could be harmed by someone smoking in the same building is simply lying, or imagining things at best. So long as there are segregated areas for smokers and non-smokers it's not an issue at all.
Is it against my human rights as a smoker for it to be banned?!
Its stupid, like when celebrities like mariah carey claim they can smell some one smoke over 500 yeards away from them when they cant.
What an idiot she is... :rolleyes:
Of course this is a very small minority who are spoiling it for the rest of the polite and considerate smokers.
We should make more rules because people don't follow the ones we already have. Hmmmmmmmm....... theres something not quite right with this picture.........
What are you smoking?
:yes:
Same could be said for smokers, as well.
IIRC, this was mentioned (can't remember who said it, though) in the thread about the Smoking Ban Bill being passed. I agree with this - it would also mean that, people who aren't too bothered about breathing in smoke could still talk to their friends who smoke in the smoking areas...
a smoker would not want to go to a hotel with no smoking would they.
Except of course, the law will mean that they don't have a choice.
I think smokers are happy to avoid non-smoking areas, where they also have the option to smoke elsewhere...
LOL (or are you being serious?)
But the thing is, with smoking it's not exactly useful/benefits the user in anyway, unlike a car would, would it?
In many cases cars are not a necessity at all... just a convenience.
Then you won't bother us with your moaning about cars, when the REAL polluters are factories, and indeed, cows.
Good for the Hotel! I agree with it.
Someone smoking that far away from me doesn't bother me - it's just when there's some inconsiderate person who decides to blow the smoke in my face...
that pisses me off too.
Er, that would piss everyone off, smoker or non. It's rudeness and a lack of consideration, being a smoker doesn't automatically mean you possess those qualities. You'll find that a lot of smokers are very considerate of others and have been nagged to a point where they feel guilty for having a snout which they are ENTITLED TO HAVE (just not anywhere where there might be a civilised person who operates on a higher plain i.e. a non-smoker knocking about, as of 2007).
I like the way you think. :thumb:
On topic, good for them indeed.
I don't smoke, by the way. But I couldn't really care if people do.
But I don't have a problem with segregation. usual terms apply- 85% of the hotel's accomodation should be non-smoking, all corridors and lobbies should be, and if a guest smokes in a non-smoking room he should be getting a fine in the hundreds if not the thousands.
Rooms that have been smoked in absolutely stink for days afterwards. But so long as I don't have to sleep in one, I don't care. Let them have their smoking rooms. So long as I don't need to walk through smoke to get to my room, and so long as my room doesn't stink of smoke, who cares?
When you've stopped approaching the topic through the red mist that so frequently descends upon you when dealing with topics you feel strongly about, it's not really is it? We could do an experiment perhaps? I'll sit next to you and blow an entire cigarette's smoke into your face, and then I’ll sit on the table next to you and see if the effects are anywhere near the same. You may feel angry about dealing with smokers but let’s not lose all grip on reality, even if it does ostensibly serve your argument.
Maybe we could just dispose of their heads via the guillotine instead? It'd ensure less reoffenders. Seriously, a little perspective please.
You seem to, quite vehemently in fact.
as i said above:
"i think smokers and non smokers alike dont understand the conceptual difference between a freedom and a right"
being free to do something, is not the same as being entitled to
Yeah... alot of smokers and non-smoekrs seem to miss the point.
But I think this ban is going too far. Let the Landlord decide! What if a landlord smokes? Are we denying him this, in HIS OWN PUB?
Of course, telling you what to do with "your" stuff means you don't own it, they do. This includes your children for immunisation, your life if they want to fight wars and ofc, your pub if they want to meddle with lots of people's health and YOU just in general.
Your always free to do whatever pops into your head and can make physically happen. Your "owners" might disagree with what you choose and say you aren't entitled. Their power over you consists of doing something after you've acted.