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i wanted a mountain bike for spring.
someone has just given me a y frame thing with twenty odd gears heavy front suspension middle suspension front disc brake looks great.
why is it a downhill one ...what does that mean?
someone has just given me a y frame thing with twenty odd gears heavy front suspension middle suspension front disc brake looks great.
why is it a downhill one ...what does that mean?
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suspension for comfort and all that plus easier to navigate down yon hills with it
allegdley
downhill bike:
bike with springs:
one is a highly specialised piece of kit, the other is hardly worthy of being called a 'bike'. no disrespect but i'm sure yours isn't of the same quality as the lovely dhs mono pictured above.
worth? not a clue.
whilst you look forward ...i just remember.
but saying that ...i am now in a new business new adventure ...first propper job realy ...and i am thinking of realy taking the plunge and ...growing up ...only thinking about it mind.
being all growed up has never realy apealed to me ...
the bike will be fun ...or the death of me.
cos tht is what you got told dont ask just take it down a hill and if you fall off then it is a street bike that some one has told you it is for down hill just take it out and have fun .
p.s
up for a race homie ? cos i got a down hill bike wich i am iching to fuck up and hurt my self with
looks quality to me but then i know diddly shit about bikes.
there was a time i knew much about village bikes but i don't go in the sex forum ...
or more like this?
forks on that puppy are £3k alone... one of the ultimate downhill bikes, astounding design.
eta...point proven lol (posted ssame time;p)
£3k forks, £3.5k frame then you're looking at another £1k on parts... silly money but something to aspire to, the ferrari (or another droolworthy sports car) of the bike world.
front forks are heavy ...pms forks with attitude stickers on them.
all box section not tubular.
much less metal than the ones in the pictures.
but hey, if it gets people into the sport (difficult when the kit will break from the slightest provocation) then it's good.
if you ever drive past a world cup downhill course, go take a look... you'll find road gaps (drops over 9' with a gap of at least 10' to landing), vertical walled berms as big as your average halfpipe, jumps anything up to 40' long, roots as big as tree trunks all on a steep hillside which riders are hitting speeds of up to 60mph on. it'll make you realise why you can't skimp on kit, you'll kill yourself...
**edit: the red bike looks heavy but i can tell you it'll weigh less than a lot of cheap full sussers out there, you're looking around 35lbs average with some hitting 30lb which is light for something that'll take the amount of abuse they do. mine's 37lb but it's not a racer, it's a 'chuck it off jumps/drops' bike, built up with unbreakable bits.
crappy phone picture ...
i'll only be riding it in the forrest and along the cliff tops.
worthless lump o junk?
it'll definately be fine for that, and i definately wouldn't say it's worthless.. kaffrins comment mightve been a little strong :P
tho i have watched some of the downhill stuff... if you dont have adecent bike you will probably get hurt, it looks pretty scary ;p
i'm sure it's not!
take it out for a test run and report back
went down some hills ...gentle compared with what kaff is talking about i suppose ...some pretty rough ground though and i felt like i was doing a hundred miles an hour ...probably more like thirty but there you go.
yes i'm more than happy with it.
the bike's what i thought it was, it'll do perfectly fine as a bike to ride about places but it'll destroy itself if chucked off enough kerbs.
back when i used to be a bike monkey, a guy brought one of those in for repair, his freewheel had broken (cogs bits on the back). he asked if i could repair it "no problem!" came the reply... i whipped the back wheel out and examined the parts looking to remove the freewheel as it was knackered. the mtb freewheel is a world standard and each and every one is removed with the same tool but on closer inspection this one was different. i just couldn't remove it... no chance in hell. obviously these non standard parts are plenty cheaper than stock shimano stuff, even at the low end.
i'm not trying to be harsh but as this sport is my great love, it really saddens me that people would rather have springy bits front and back rather than a bike that'll last more than 5 minute's abuse. if people asked me for advice i'd gladly give it, sometimes they asked and they'd look at me like i was wrong because the bike i'd point out to them didn't have 'disc brakes' or 'suspension'. but the customers who believed what i told them always came back at a later date with a smile on their face, the other lot just came back with broken bikes whinging that it was crap.
what annoys me more than anything though is the fact that a lot of these cheap bikes are just dangerous... halfords used to sell a bike called the 'pro-motiv ds500' and it was dangerous, it was of such a poor quality that nothing would stay tightened, parts didn't work properly (brakes, the single thing that SHOULD work if nothing else were really poor). i just flat out refused to sell them, the area manager had a right go at me but within 3 weeks there was a memo from head office saying they were to be withdrawn from sale and destroyed...
anyway, i'm whinging now and that's not what i came here to do. rolly, your bike is fine, just don't ride it off anything big or you'll do yourself a mishief, it's also called a 'saxon' something or other, originally acquirable through shopping channels but was spotted in a few bike shops at some point. if nothing else, make sure everything's tight and it won't injure you, but when it starts to go wrong just get rid of it, the non-standard parts are impossible to find and it'll cost you loads to replace them all.
i shall leave you with this, a pic of the canfield f1, a bike capable of being hucked off a cliff and landing like it was a 5" kerb.
imitation forks with dual crowns also bother me a little, they don't need another crown as there's never any travel on them anyway... forks similar to those pms ones (chilli iirc) are made from mild steel have barely 2" of travel and the travel is just a spring, the damping provided by the amazing amount of stiction in the bushings/seals (which don't actually exist).
for example, you're flying down a hill and hit a bump... the forks take the hit reasonably well but as there's no damping they ping right back in your face as fast as they compressed. this can lead to you getting bucked clean off the bike (which is obviously not a good thing).
i had a set of marzocchi 888s last year and they were amazing, a full on downhill fork with a silly amount of adjustability, 24 clicks of compression/rebound damping meaning you could run them like a pogo stick or have them suck right down and take 20 seconds to return to full length. 8" of travel with speed sensitive cartidges, truly amazing. i only got rid of them because the hills aren't big enough to warrant the travel/weight and they were a tad weighty at 8lbs, after a set of 66s now though, little brother of the 888s
i can assure you i won't be doing anything to daring!
why does the frame have no numbers names stamps stickers ...nothing to identify it at all?
the names on the various bits are ..weinman usa wheels.
centre suspension is kind shock s261.
front sus is ...enrage dual blade.
gears which i thik there are 28 of ...shimano altus.
brake levers ...x-nine.
in very nice condition and seems pretty sound for nowt!
seriously.
waste handling ...cleaning the environment ...no i'm not on community service.
where theres muck theres brass.