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"Booze Britain": Doom-sayers left with egg on their faces
BillieTheBot
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Violent crime down since the introduction of extended hours drinking:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4692016.stm
Will the likes of the Daily Mail now apologise for their despicable campaign? :mad:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4692016.stm
Will the likes of the Daily Mail now apologise for their despicable campaign? :mad:
Beep boop. I'm a bot.
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In many cases, it'll probably mean actully drinking less, and far more responsibly.
It is not up to the State to decide on our behalf when it's time to go to bed.
I think it has little to do with the opening hours, but people are drinking more, especially women. I read a survey in the paper in Sunday saying that most 20-30 year old women now consume 4 or more bottles of wine a week. Thats not healthy and women get addicted a lot sooner than men.
For what is worth they drink like fishes in Spain as well, "cafe culture" or not. I guess the difference is that by spreading their drinking over longer time and by having longer hours they don't get the familiar Saturday night drunken brawls many British towns get on a Saturday night.
Also as people get used to extended opening hours they may increase their drinking.
The more interesting thing will be whether the none smoking in pubs will have an effect. Currently pubs tend to attract more younger people, who don't care about smoke (or smoke themselves) and tend to have less older non-smokers. If it drives younger people away (and they smoke and drink at home or at mates houses instead) and get more older (who tend to be less involved in pubs) will that decrease violence?
most alcohol consumed is consumed at home btw
Of course, but whether you drink 4 bottles of wine a week in a pub, at home or standing on your head its still going to knacker your liver.
Except its not, the statistics are coming from the Home Office, unless you think they are 'squidy liberals' (what does that mean by the way?).
I'm not quite sure you understand the term liberal, either that or you are so far right in terms of authortarianism I'm deeply frightened.
And terrorism laws, restrictions on the right to protest, internment (luckily withdrawn), ASBO's based on hearsay, extraditing people where no evidence has to be put forward, restrictions on free speach, withdrawl of innocent till proven guilty.... Yep you're right, all just wolly liberals mincing about.
Sentancing has next to nothing to do with the Home Office, thankfully we have somewhat independant judges.
Community service isnt soft, it works and is much less expensive than prison.
Prisons dont work, so building more would be pointless and a waste of money.
Try misreporting, misleading, personal attacks on Ministers, scaremongering...
And when they get to the end of their sentence? Or once a criminal always a criminal so keep them in forever?
And the other 99% of prisoners?
Which is exactly why judges should be able to sentence themselves based on the evidence, and why community service is a good idea.
I dont mean to be patronising SG, but prison isnt how you think it is, and prisoners arent what you think they are, a stupid mistake can mean a whole lot of trouble. They arent monsters and its in our interest not to treat them as such.
Haha! Victory!
Daily Mail, apologise, yeah, once they've finished training the pigs to fly in formation....
longer opening hours seem to be working in the town centres where it is happening ...for all the reasons we argued they would ...SG.
so far ...
as for increased drinking ...has there been an increase in the available money in peoples pockets to spend on booze?
SG ...your ideas on prison and sentencing sound seriously muddled.
different sentences for different crimes your saying now ...well welcome to the other side of the argument!
make your mind up.
Well, well. Aladdin didn't point out the figures had been published two months early. Nor did he point out there's a £2.5 million campaign involving the police to see how the law beds in. I bet if we look again in a few months that alcohol-related crime will be rocketing. Rubbish law by rubbish government. It may not be popular to look at what the Mail says, but the Government can always trust a lazy, compliant paper like The Independent to do their bidding, can't they? :rolleyes:
heres me thinking the mail did the bidding of the tories ....
the tories cut police numbers to the bone ...
along with all medical staff and teachers and binmen and firemen etc etc etc etc.