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Men generally have a higher sex drive than women - that's what you're not taking into account.
if a guy is with a girl just for the sex (especially when she isnt) then yes he is a selfish fart in my opinion
You sound like a hillbilly :rolleyes:
Only an absolute cunt of a parent would throw their child onto the street because they exercised their legal right to individual autonomy.
I see the US patriachal system is as sado-masochistic as ever :rolleyes:
No, I'm not at all. But if someone's sexual needs - male or female - can't be satisified in a relationship, then that relationship isn't going to work. And no-one can rightfuly criticised from ending a relationship when they aren't happy/satisfied.
yee haw, did you know I only have one toof and car parts scattered across my lawn? :yes: Quite the comment there, usefull and intelligent
And I do believe I sated though, there was no need for, oh america, comunists lololol!!!!1111, it has no relivance to this thread. I'd feel the same way if I could fuck and drink at 7.
Why bother to wait, if you don't love the person?
otherwise, if its meant to be a serious relationship then there should be no whining/pressuring involved
Relationships and sex are inseparable.
Anyway the point is whether leaving someone because they ain't willing to shag classifies someone as a "dickhead" - which is clearly ridiculous.
but if they're not ready, and the other party is too selfish to wait...then thats not fair. but then again that person is probably better off without someone like that
Do your parents still tell you what to do?
Did you ever do what your parents told you?
You seem to think there's some inherent shame in obeying your parents' rules and requests in terms of behaviour [all the while being their dependent, I might add].
:yes: They call me every night to make sure I've brushed my teeth, I call them when I'm going to go out, sometimes I call to ask if its alright to use the oven to make dinner...
Geeze whore, get with the times. When your hard enough to steal lasagna you obviously can't listen to your parents ever. It would be well shamefull. Parents are a form of authority!
If one person is mature enough to want sex, and one isn't, then the relationship IS a mis-match. One thing you should never do is cave in to a demand because of this blackmail, but if one person wants sex and one doesn't then the relationship has problems. At 15 or 16, why wait?
I have some sympathy with the "my house, my rules" argument, but at 16 a person is old enough to know what they want to do. Parents should be there to help children avoid mistakes, but good parents know that children need to make their own mistakes, and learn from them in their own lives. A person cannot be mollycoddled through their life, and parents need to take a step back and let their children make mistakes.
It's a hard thing to do, and one many parents can't do, but the sign of a good parent is to say to their 16 or 17-year-old that they are making a mistake, but go on ahead anyway. Children at that age need to be given some rope away from the nest, to be given the safety of home but be allowed enough room to go and make their own mistakes.
The amount of rope should be limited, but to say to a 16 or 17-year-old that they have to be in bed by 9pm is stupid. On a weekday, when they are still at school, then fair enough. But as soon as a child passes their GCSEs, in my book they are responsible for going to school, and it is their tough shit if they don't.
thats if its ok with his parents of course if hes living at home still
my mum however is majorly over-protective and she knows it....like in my other thread i mentioned that i wanted to try the pill (for bad periods and not contraception) and she freaked out and said no. Which i think is unfair because i'm 16 and she went on the pill for exactly the same reason when she was my age.
I think i may get my dad to talk to her....she's not giving me enough room.
And as said in the other thread, you should just go to the doctor and get it anyway. It's none of her business if you're on it or not.
Parents needs to allow children to cock up.
If you're still not getting autonomy after starting dialogue...then don't mention things like the pill. Make your own decision and go for it - if needs be, just do your own thing and push parental involvement out of your life. Don't think you need to explain everything to them - because you don't. Start doing rather than asking - if they see you are acting independently rather than seeking permission, they may begin to accept your autonomy.
Thanks for the definition of decent parents, I'll be sure to pass that along to mine when I see them.
I guess it all depends on your perspective, a few years ago I would've been arguing from your side, but now I can see it from the perspective of the parents too. I can see why you're encouraging independence, but for most young people it will involve hurting their parents and/or breaking their trust.
I really take issue with your assertions that you can't grow up to be a rounded, socially integrated person without sex, alcohol and partying. But obviously they're what you see as important qualities/experience in a person. Don't take the piss by saying that being allowed to stay out late, drink and shag equals maturity and happiness (?) beyond that of your peers who aren't doing those things. It's a possible outcome, but it's by no means set in stone.
For what it's worth, I wasn't allowed to go out whenever I wanted but I did anyway to do all the things I thought were oh-so cool at the time; drink, smoke, have sex and all the rest. I don't feel any more mature than my more-sheltered friends and peers for it, but I do feel sad that I hurt my parents so much in that period. It's just probably my own experience that's making me argue this, I can see both sides to be honest, I just can't agree with the advice you're giving.
you can have sex during the day, y'know.
Right. So shagging someone and lunchtime is somehow more acceptable than shagging some at night?
I'm not saying it will stop them by default. If you ain't able to go to parties and stay out at night then it certainly has considerable potential to cause social/sexual problems in that regard.
Anyway...all you're doing is highlighting the fact the problem lies with parental attitude.
How the fuck is stealing a lasagne "hard"?
Considering the fact i'm 20 and have my own flat totally negates any conception of obligation to parents anyway.