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and I said that it should be the Afghan Govt which does it and not the US/UK/UN.
Reducing the demand is only half the problem, you must reduce the supply to. As I said, if you continue to make drugs easily accessible then new addicts will be created.
Nobody smoked cigarettes until they were manufactured. Few people drove until Ford made cars easily available.
I did say that the problem should be approached from both ends. You need to reduce the demand as well as the supply.
and I haven't seen any other suggestions being put forward...
http://www.ananova.com/images/news/rachelWhitear3PA410x482.jpg
How many Afhgan farmers do you think she fed?
I agree with you that we should help and support the Afghan govt to reduce heroin output, but I disagree that our only option is to napalm the poppy fields. We should be fighting the problem at our end, not theirs.
Trying to remind you that this isn't just about farmers being fed, or politics, or which nation should be responsible.
Is there something wrong with using a picture showing the reality of heroin abuse?
Again not OUR option, the Afghan's...
and how are you going to solve the problem at our end?
I don't think it's about responsibility - it's about whether we actually have the right to actively destroy crops in a foreign country. </STRONG>
Shall I find a picture of a starving Afghan farmer then? Customs and excise - it's what they're there for. That and more policing, and stiffer penalties for dealers.
Not sure how many times I have to say this but it <STRONG>isn't</STRONG> our responsibilty, it is the <STRONG>Afghan's</STRONG>, I have never advocated that the US/UK napalms the crop just that the Afghans do...
Yeah, go ahead. Then I can show a field of wheat...no-one is saying that he shouldn't eat, just that he shouldn't be allowed to grow extreemly dangerous drugs to fund himself. He doesn't have to starve, in the same way that she didn't have to take heroin.
Put the two people together and that picture is the result.
Ever heard of supply and demand? If you offer a service people will take it up. Just look at a supermarket, no matter how many tills open up there is always a queue.
The first assumes that we detect the drugs coming in, the second that we identify the dealers. I say encourage the destruction of the crop at the growing stage...
Well we agree then <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
But others did suggest nuking Afghanistan to get rid of the poppy farms. </STRONG>
If you are talking supply and demand, your anger should lie with the dealers, not the poppy farmers.
That's a bad analogy anyway because the tills are opened as a result of demand, not the other way round. Why not all three? It is difficult to detect drugs coming in, and to prosecute dealers but certainly not impossible.
and who supplies the dealers?
Next you'll be telling me that it's Tesco's fault that Pot Noodles exist <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
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Not true. It is becuase the store wants more people through the shop and this speeds things up. If they didn't open another till there would only be one queue, you supply more tills, you get more queues...
I agree, but then I did say that we should try to affect things from <STRONG>both</STRONG> ends, not just our. This isn't just our problem.
If we want to rid the world of Afghanistani poppy farms, we need the Afghan govt on our side - we shouldn't (&couldn') do it ourselves.
But still the Pot Noodles would be made, and now Asda is selling them...
I think the analogy with nuclear waste is a good one
The situation is this....
British people Demand Heroine which our govt does not want them to have because of it's adverse social effects. The Afghans supply the Heroine because it is beneficial for there economy.
In Britain we create pollution from our industry because it benefits our economy, but this pollution has a negative impact on the rest of the world.
In conclusion we should only have a right to even TRY and get them to stop the Opium production if we help them replace it with something just as economically viable or if we stop doing things that have negative impacts on Afghanistan.