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I was speaking more generally, I cant say I find Muslims scary either.
One thing I do wish we had which is American though and thats Thanksgiving, its a totally non-religious festival, just a time to eat a lot, have time with the family and be thankful, you cant ask for much more from a holiday really.
Perhaps religious folk give thanks to God and non-religious simply get on with the holiday/food fest/family reunion? Just like Xmas in a way...
So it's offsensive to say 'christmas tree' but not to fly the union jack?
Where on earth did you hear that?
Certainly people who believe in a God will them it/him but its not, religion based, like Christmas for example.
Basically it is when the Pilgrims were taught how to farm corn etc. by the natives to help them through the winter (because not many of them were actually farmers they were religious nuts and not ready for the journey or living there). Then when harvest time came round and the pilgrims had lots to eat they invited the natives round and they all had a nice dinner party.
So, not only is the holiday non religious and all inclusive, but the story itself is about sharing, including others from different backgrounds and being together as a community.
Really? Well I guess that just shows that you shouldn't believe everything that you hear then isn't it? There were several news reports that some councils had renamed their Xmas lights as winter lights, but they turned out to be the usual bollocks.
Has anyone actually stopped you talking about Xmas?
Wasn't much point in what? My point is that it never happened. No one has ever said (well, no one of any importance anyway) that we can't talk about Xmas trees etc.
Don't believe the hype.
Well, I was under the impression that thanksgiving is a merge of a native american celebration with a victory feast after europeans slaughtered a tribe if natives.
:shocking:
You not left in da head :yes:
No, they certainly murdered hundreds of thousands of natives later, but Thanksgiving is before that.
Isn't it the big Chicago vs. Detroit game on Thanksgiving?
As for flying a flag, well the kids where I live would steal it off our flagpole anyway, in a continued victimisation of my dad, and I really don't see the point in it. Flying a flag doesn't show anything except you are listening to Gordon Brown.
How long before children have to sing the national anthem around the flag in schools?
NO ONE HAS RENAMED CHRISTAMS TREES OR LIGHTS
OK?
Just tell him to fuck off...he won't mind.
Just ignore him.
Blagsta gives everyone grief, even the regulars, just give him grief back.
Sorry, I was just pointing out that renaming of Xmas didn't happen. Why get so upset about it?
Changes every year. No team is guananteed the grand t day game every year. (oh, and the bears and the packers are far more rivals than detroit, nobody seem sto care of them
Sorry for the non related post
:yes: christmas minus gifts.
you seem to have a lot of holidays in america, its not fair. I hear you get longer school holidays too.