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But what on earth is the point of erecting a pole in your garden and 'flying the flag' permanently? What does that prove?
To show pride of nation, heritage and shit like that. It's something the Americans seem to do more than us, though there's loads of flags on lamp posts round here but that's a different story altogether.
but surely doing anything is copying someone? america is one of the biggest countries in the world so its not surpsing that we seem to be copying them more often.
we still drive on the left, unlike the rest of the world, afterall.
Daft Idea, daft daft daft. Especially as I am supprised New Labour didn't claim this would offend Etnic Minorities like they claim EVERYTHING does. Then said Minorities come out and tell people it doesn't. (Which the mail likes to look over.)
Oh well. Silly idea.
Burn the damn pieces of cloth and let our leaders submit to the constant public scrutiny required for the maintenance of healthy participatory democratic systems.
I really can’t be bothered with this sort of stuff though, like discussions regarding fox hunting and banning flag burning or whatever it’s really pointless and irrelevant and there are far more important things that our politicians should be talking about. I'd like to hear Gordan talking about the NHS, public transport, terrorism, AIDS, the environment, the developing world and crime before he talks about trivial stuff like this.
Going back to fox hunting I’m puzzled by the mindset of people who fund the animal rights groups that pushed for a ban. It might be a noble cause but when there are people starving to death I can’t really see the logic in spending money to save vermin when that money could save human lives.
No, it doesn’t. And I think we can recognise that funding environmental projects which will produce long term positive consequences is justifiable. However, I don’t see the same with animal welfare groups. Not when there are people starving to death and relief charities that need more money. And since I don’t have a bottomless pit of money to donate to charitable causes I only donate to the most important. And I think most people are in that position. And I don’t think anybody can ever argue that a fox’s welfare is more important than education or food for someone in the developing world. I know pushed to extremes this kind of thinking could suggest that we never buy any luxury since we could do something better with our money by giving it to Oxfam. But - I find it ridiculous that has Parliament spent more time on fox hunting than matters concerning the developing world. And the same goes against giving money to Oxfam and such vs the League Against Cruel Sports, etc.
But surely for as long as there are people dying of starvation, AIDS, etc and the causes to help those people need money these causes should always take priority over animal welfare?
I can see the problems with this, I mean you could further argue that it would be wrong to give money to a charity helping the elderly here when you could help children in Africa and I know it's people's own business what they give to but there really are a lot better causes than saving animals. People might think saving cute fluffy animals is nice and it is but it must come second to the important work done by development and relief charities.
If we were talking about someone who's given in their lifetime tens of thousands of quid to animal charities but not much money at all to 'human' ones I could see it as a bit more questionable. Though they could argue that since far more people is giving money to human causes, someone has to take care of animal ones.
Yeah, I think I agree with your middle ground there.. I’ve probably just been spending too much time revising utilitarianism for my A-level Ethics re-take next week.
Let's just hope we don't start shooting each other (more than now), then.
I wouldn't put a flag up in my fucking garden (if I had one). I don't go for the whole patriotism, thing...I just live here.
indeed.
the thought of more American-isms catching on here frightens me.
Sorry just because the BBC made the insinuation that the union jack was associated with the BNP doesn't make it so mate! It's a very complicated issue, and in Northern Ireland it's worse, basically I'm not british, i'm not english I'm nothing to do with the union jack. I'll fly the tricolour out my window everyday just to piss all you patriotist colonionist fucks off..Oglaigh na hEireann!! Beidh ar la linn!
Yeah! :thumb:
Although all the locals don't like it that much.
Being proud of your country isnt a bad thing, and I think us Brits do have a bad habit of just assuming everything will be shite and moaning but not doing anything positive about it.
But lets face it, this idea isnt about getting people to be more proud, its about getting Muslims not to be scary anymore and to 'fit in'.
My own countrymen are the ones who scare me.