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I think that is probably true to a large extent - although since Mussolini was in his earlier years a pretty sincere socialist I think some of that did carry over into fascism.
I disagree. The only other parliamentarian who can match Churchill is Gladstone.
As for the Greatest Briton - my vote goes to Shakespeare.
Saying he was a flop in everythign he did except the years he opposed the Nazis, is ignorance of the context of his life and history of the time. It is the same as saying Lord Halifax was a good man all the time except that decade where he swore allegience to Hitler and the Nazis as our superiors. Or the same as saying that Atlee was a great PM in everything he did when he was moderate at best.
I wasn't really being serious, just trying to get a response out of someone..
Greatest Briton, I dunno there are lots. Dickens, Elizabeth I, Shakespeare..Although I suppose the latter two can only really be called English since Britain did not exist whilst they were alive.
Why?
I've studied her, she didn't do much except live for a long time!
(and don't forget he was also responsible for the infamous black and tans being sent to Northern Ireland)
Brunel
I haven't studied her yet so might think differently after but she did a better job than the rest of the tudors. Economically she was successful and politically - with Spain, etc.
I don't doubt she was a successful monarch but I wouldn't go as far to call her the greatest Briton ever.
The sheep mentality still as prevelent as ever I see.
Your whole post is pointless, it is like saying Romans shouldnt have crucified people because they should of known better!
At the time it was the normal way of doing things!
You do not honestly think any of the people around him said, "hmmm Winston old boy, i think murdering all them kurds is a bad idea. Maybe you should reconsider it, old chap."
They probably said, "Brilliant old man, excellent thinking."
I bet no one even batted an eye lid at the suggestion.
We are nearly a hundred years on the world is a different place.
It is one of those arguments that people with sub-normal intelligence use, such as when the Labour Government said Saddam Gassed Kurds and that was a reason to remove him from power, every one jumped on the bandwago of, Britain gassed kurds too, so lets remove the Labour Government from power. The most idiotic argument ever, since Churchill not the Labour Government did it and he did it nearly a century ago, not last month!
God, why can people not understand that whats bad at one time may not be later on and vice versa when they argue history. And thats another thing, when people one minute argue something like the kurds been gassed with saddam to oppose a war, then suddenly change tac and say it was ok to use drugs in the Victorian times but it isnt now to support their pro-drugs arguments!
"Hypocracy!" In the words of Doc Holiday! "Hypocracy!"
..are the real ones displaying "sub-normal intelligence".
Indeed, although 'greatest Briton' generally does mean greatest famous Briton. Or at least it did for the BBC programme.
Errr...I haven't.
Did Churchill actually gas anyone? Or order the gassing?
D'Israeli was a brilliant PM however!
quick google seems to bring up articles relating, this was the only source I recognised but I'll make no claims on accuracy.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,939608,00.html
Churchill was particularly keen on chemical weapons, suggesting they be used "against recalcitrant Arabs as an experiment". He dismissed objections as "unreasonable". "I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes _ [to] spread a lively terror _" In today's terms, "the Arab" needed to be shocked and awed. A good gassing might well do the job. (quote taken from article)
No, the RAF didn't have the means then to gas kurish civilians so they resorted to using conventional bombs to kill them.
no way!
But Lloyd George was no good. Look at the shambles of the Versaille Treaty, he totally caved into the French Governments pressure.