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woooooooooohooooooooooo!!!

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
my student loan's just gone in!!! yeah baby! i've been existing on 70p for 4 days :D:D:D:D:D:D

just had to share that with someone!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Congratulations. Meanwhile, I've just got to ask how'd you manage on 70p for 4 days?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh I really feel for all students that have to survive on a loan, while I live it up with my £6000 bursary that I don't have to pay back....

    :p:p:p:p:p:p

    EDIT: oh and free tuition fees!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Panthro wrote:
    Oh I really feel for all students that have to survive on a loan, while I live it up with my £6000 bursary that I don't have to pay back....

    :p:p:p:p:p:p

    EDIT: oh and free tuition fees!

    Wanker. :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Renzo wrote:
    Wanker. :(
    Them bloody Scots, staying in their country, getting their free education and wearing their kilts... :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It is so true :(

    But really I do really think it is shite that students have to get themselves into tens of thousands of debt before they even start their careers! The government is looking towards a 50% of school leavers entering Uni. Most of whom won;t qualify for the bursary supposedly beng introduced!

    Then there is the increase in fees. As a Labour Party Member I have to agree this was an embarrassment! They technically may not be top-up fees, but they are top-up fees by any other name!

    From a Scottish student for his shitely treated English and welsh counterparts.......
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Panthro wrote:
    It is so true :(


    From a Scottish student for his shitely treated English counterparts.......

    I'm Welsh :mad:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Renzo wrote:
    I'm Welsh :mad:

    I changed it when I realised that I forgot the 2nd best country after Scotland ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Renzo wrote:
    I'm Welsh :mad:

    I wouldn't make a point of admitting that.

    :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Panthro wrote:
    Then there is the increase in fees. As a Labour Party Member I have to agree this was an embarrassment! They technically may not be top-up fees, but they are top-up fees by any other name! From a Scottish student for his shitely treated English and welsh counterparts.......
    Agreed. Which is one reason I won't be voting Labour. Apart from the Labour Party being a collection of basketcase socialists, outcasts and misfits. :p But back to the thread...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Doofay wrote:
    I wouldn't make a point of admitting that. :p
    Neither would I make a point of admitting I'm from Manchester, but there we go. :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Congratulations. Meanwhile, I've just got to ask how'd you manage on 70p for 4 days?

    I have spent most of it asleep and pissing around on the net. I had a bit more but I needed bus fare to go to a gig where i drank TAP WATER. The shame.

    Soooooooo going shopping tomorrow

    *evil little voice* but you have lots of work to do...

    What work was that?!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Neither would I make a point of admitting I'm from Manchester, but there we go. :p

    Manchester historically has had a strong industry, good housing, a fantastic city centre and has one of Britain's largest airports.

    Wales has sheep. ;p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Doofay wrote:
    Manchester historically has had a strong industry, good housing, a fantastic city centre and has one of Britain's largest airports.

    Wales has sheep. ;p

    *Manchester has relatively high crime rates compared to all its peers
    *Within the CDRP family 4 group the highest crime rates are in either Manchester or Nottingham, with Nottingham having slightly higher rates of violence, burglary and theft from vehicle than Manchester
    *Manchester has the highest crime rates in each category when compared with the other core cities
    *Manchester has the highest crime rates of all the Greater Manchester districts in each category except for theft from motor vehicles where Salford has a higher crime rate than Manchester

    EDIT: Source: Manchester City Council
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Panthro wrote:
    *Manchester has relatively high crime rates compared to all its peers
    *Within the CDRP family 4 group the highest crime rates are in either Manchester or Nottingham, with Nottingham having slightly higher rates of violence, burglary and theft from vehicle than Manchester
    *Manchester has the highest crime rates in each category when compared with the other core cities
    *Manchester has the highest crime rates of all the Greater Manchester districts in each category except for theft from motor vehicles where Salford has a higher crime rate than Manchester

    EDIT: Source: Manchester City Council

    *Wales has far too many sheep

    EDIT: Sauce: Nar, i like my lamb plain thanks
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Doofay wrote:
    *Wales has far too many sheep
    That I shall agree with. It's just one reason I want out of this country. I wonder if Manchester is as bad as Panthro makes out... never been there, so I can't comment.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    That I shall agree with. It's just one reason I want out of this country. I wonder if Manchester is as bad as Panthro makes out... never been there, so I can't comment.

    Manchester is an ace city. Moss side and parts of Salford are what gives Manchester its reputation for being a rough city, but on the whole it isn't. It has everything - an Airport, Metrolink system, multiple Universities, brilliant nightlife etc. So long as you have basic common sense, you're unlikely to encounter any violence while you're here.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Doofay wrote:
    Manchester is an ace city. Moss side and parts of Salford are what gives Manchester its reputation for being a rough city, but on the whole it isn't. It has everything - an Airport, Metrolink system, multiple Universities, brilliant nightlife etc. So long as you have basic common sense, you're unlikely to encounter any violence while you're here.
    london is still better...and youd never get me admitting i am from liverpool....im half english as far as a lot of people are concerned
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Panthro wrote:
    *Manchester has the highest crime rates in each category when compared with the other core cities

    nope, not each category - we claim one such title:

    unfortunately :/
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    littlemissylittlemissy Posts: 9,972 Supreme Poster
    The thing is thouogh, although Panthro and other Scottish students don't pay their tuition fees before uni they will have to pay them after uni. They will be paying them back like the student loan. It isn't called tuition fees but it is somethingsimilar. It is basically the Scottish Parliament pretending they have abolished tuition fees.

    The thing about the new system is that everyone will be paying the tuition fees. It won't be means tested like it was before.

    I was extremely lucky. I went to Uni the one year there were absolutely no tuition fees because of the changeover in the system. There was a loophole :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    That I shall agree with. It's just one reason I want out of this country. I wonder if Manchester is as bad as Panthro makes out... never been there, so I can't comment.

    Nah Manchester aint bad. Area I live in we've had 2 burglary's in 15 years, and they were both on Christmas eve just gone, thought to have been the same person.

    I've never seen a fight kick off when I've been out drinking in Manchester, which for every other city and town I've ever been out in I can't say.

    Yes fair enough there are bad areas like Doofay said, but everywhere has good and bad areas.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I have spent most of it asleep and pissing around on the net. I had a bit more but I needed bus fare to go to a gig where i drank TAP WATER. The shame.

    Soooooooo going shopping tomorrow

    *evil little voice* but you have lots of work to do...

    What work was that?!

    i never really get happy when my student loan is in 'cause a lot of it is tied up with nasty things like tuition fees and rent so i don't get to enjoy it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I ghot mine on monday,

    i have been looking at my bank statement and rubbing my hands greedily ever since.

    but in reality about £1000 of it is owed in rent so i cant spend any
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Got my loan on Monday, although it showed up on my bank statements online on Sunday. Only owe £300 rent this term as well so I feel very rich :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The thing is thouogh, although Panthro and other Scottish students don't pay their tuition fees before uni they will have to pay them after uni. They will be paying them back like the student loan. It isn't called tuition fees but it is somethingsimilar. It is basically the Scottish Parliament pretending they have abolished tuition fees.

    The thing about the new system is that everyone will be paying the tuition fees. It won't be means tested like it was before.

    I was extremely lucky. I went to Uni the one year there were absolutely no tuition fees because of the changeover in the system. There was a loophole :D


    Where did you hear that rot?

    Scottish Exec is increasing the money for each student to £1,900 [up from £1,150 at the mo] for each year to their university. This is to try to allow Scottish Unis to compete with their English counterparts. The graduate endownment is still payable to some students [currently £2,000] at the end of their degree, and this means that they have to either pay it out all in the oner or take a student loan for the amount with the same terms. Basically meaning that the Scottish graduates instead of paying £4000 or more after uni, they only have to pay 2000. For details go to the student awards agency graduate endownment site.

    Scottish domiciled students pay NO tuition fees [at any time] and at the moment there are no plans to introduce them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Stoodent loan =


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    littlemissylittlemissy Posts: 9,972 Supreme Poster
    Panthro wrote:
    Where did you hear that rot?

    Scottish Exec is increasing the money for each student to £1,900 [up from £1,150 at the mo] for each year to their university. This is to try to allow Scottish Unis to compete with their English counterparts. The graduate endownment is still payable to some students [currently £2,000] at the end of their degree, and this means that they have to either pay it out all in the oner or take a student loan for the amount with the same terms. Basically meaning that the Scottish graduates instead of paying £4000 or more after uni, they only have to pay 2000. For details go to the student awards agency graduate endownment site.

    Scottish domiciled students pay NO tuition fees [at any time] and at the moment there are no plans to introduce them.

    Please read this thread. I have quoted both the Scottish Exec and the BBC website. I am not talking "rot".

    The Scottish Exec may still be paying for your education at the time you go to uni but you still need to pay them back in the form of a Graduation Tax. It is a posh word for "tuition fees". You still need to pay but instead of paying before or during uni you pay afterwards. English students don't have Graduation Tax.

    It is quite worrying that there are Scottish students, studying in Scotland who do not know all this.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Doofay wrote:
    *Wales has far too many sheep

    EDIT: Sauce: Nar, i like my lamb plain thanks

    considering the welsh are supposed to be a nation full of sheep shaggers, how come the only people that go on about it are those who are not welsh?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It is quite worrying that there are Scottish students, studying in Scotland who do not know all this.


    I do know this! Graduate Endownment [not tax] is paid for the "benefits of reveiving a degree". The £2000 is for four years! Some English universities will be charging more than this for a year!! And the list of people that do have to pay is quite small:

    You will not have to pay the endowment if you:

    *are assessed as being independent of your parents at the start of your course;
    *are eligible for the Lone Parents’ Grant at some point during your course;
    *are eligible for the Disabled Students’ Allowance at some point during your course;
    *are on an HNC or HND course;
    *transfer to your degree course directly from an HNC or HND started before 2001-2002;
    *take less than two academic sessions to complete your degree course immediately after completing an HNC or HND;
    *take less than three academic sessions to complete your degree course in all other circumstances;
    *are taking certain degree courses that attract an income-assessed Scottish Executive Health Department bursary, such as nursing, midwifery and courses for the Allied Health Professions;
    *fail to meet the requirements to be accredited with a degree;
    *have studied for a degree in a publicly-funded higher education institution before;
    *are studying at a UK institution outside Scotland; or
    *study part time.

    This money goes back into the pot to allow the bursaries and tuition fees be paid to the next generation of students. The graduate endownment is not tuition fees! It is quite worrying that someone doesn't understand this.
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    littlemissylittlemissy Posts: 9,972 Supreme Poster
    I think in essence we are arguing the same point.

    At the end of the day education in Scotland is not free, as many people seem to think. You still need to pay for it. You pay the £2000 or whatever it is when you finish your degree. However, if you don't finish your degree you still pay the tuition.

    Education is not free. Simple as.

    I was an extremely lucky one. I entered Higher Education in 2000 which was the year that the old and new system didn't cover.

    Ah well. This is taking the limelight away from PinkFeatherBoa ... I am glad you got your loan. It is always nice when it comes through.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You still need to pay for it. You pay the £2000 or whatever it is when you finish your degree. However, if you don't finish your degree you still pay the tuition.

    No you don't!!!! I don;t have to pay as a student nurse, my optometry colleague doesnt have to pay and if you only do a three year degree you don't pay either, nor if you don't finish!

    Look at my last post, and the exemptions!





    I think Felix has the right idea, well maybe not the prozzie!!!
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