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Not every evil is subjective.
Words hurt no one - actions do.
Well said........
Of course offence is created by the listener. That doesn't validate anything.
Don't be so naive.
Well said........this is the distinction that needs to be made, inciting racial hatred shouldn't be a crime, those who have been incited and get violent is the problem......
You seem to be a bit inconsisten in your views.
On another thread you are agianst the 'promotion' of homosexuality
Yet here you support this mans right to 'promote' fascism
Hitler didn't kill any Jews himself, just incited others to............
not at all, i'm against the promotion of homosexuality in schools at a young age where it doesn't belong...........gays are quite free to express themselves.........where am i promoting fascism?.........
that's bollocks, that's like saying tony blair's not responsible for all those dead iraqi civilians.........if you lead the country and decide policy then you are responsible.
Do me a favour.
The attitude "if his hands aren't red he isn't guily" makes me sick to the stomach.
i'm sorry you've lost me............nick griffin isn't saying i must be a racist is he.....
That's exactly what you're advocating.
He only used words. Other people carried out the actions.
Well exactly so why are you saying that the person who incites the others to commit crimes is not a criminal themselves?
i think you're missing the point, tony blair ordered those troops to iraq, if the troops desert they go to prison............hitler ordered the SS and gestapo out to round up jews, on pain of death..........if nick griffin got in power and started ordering the death of asians and blacks yes i would have a problem, that's pretty bleedin obvious. your murking the issue...........there's a clear distinction between inciting and abusing the power entrusted to you, can you not see this.........
http://www.new-life.net/milgram.htm
Read and shudder at how easily most folk will kill you.
Don't kid yourself into thinking that the SS, concentration camp guards etc were forced into the job. They were carefully selected.
I think that you're looking for a clear distinction that doesn't exist. Inciting racial hatred is abuse of free speech. Free speech isn't free.
I personally don't think Griffin HAS gone too far, though I haven't seen the BBC documentary in question the BNP campaign about the problems with Muslim rapists in Keighley and West Yorkshire was more accurate than the anti-fascists will ever admit.
Of course Griffin is racist, but there is no harm in being a racist. I find it very disconcerting how people are advocating jailing somebody for stating an opinion. I find the opinions of communists to be vile beyond all belief, but I don't advocate jailing them.
Remember that tyrrany starts with a single step, and before long ALL "immoral" voices of opinion (such as, say, criticising the Government) can be illegal. It's a very slippery slope.