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US convinces Uganda to recommend "abstinence only" to fight AIDS
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1447713,00.htmlUganda, considered a beacon in Africa for its Aids-beating policies, is adopting sexual abstinence-only programmes financed by the US which could undo all its successes, a report says today.
Human Rights Watch warns that the new policies, which promote abstinence until marriage rather than condom use, leave not only young unmarried people but also women married to unfaithful men without the knowledge they need to protect themselves from infection.
Research within Uganda by Human Rights Watch has found that information on condoms, safer sex and the risks of HIV in marriage has been removed from primary schools, while some materials used in secondary schools falsely suggest that condoms have microscopic holes that allow the HIV virus through.
The Aids awareness programmes in schools are funded by the US and overseen by an American technical adviser at the ministry of education.
What a bunch of sickening cunts :mad:
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Not sure what's wrong with that approach. It's certainly not sickening.
Telling people NOT to do things makes them more likely to do them.
There is no end of reasons why this is a despicable and dangerous thing to do. And all because of absurd superstitions and beliefs some fuckers who live 10,000 miles away happen to subscribe to.
In the real world, people will have sex and sleep around, just in the same way as some people will steal or rape or kill others. It's in human nature, and therefore simply saying "you shouldn't have sex before married, and should not cheat on your partner, and therefore there is no need for you to know about (or use) condoms" is putting the lives of millions of people at risk for no good reason whatsoever other than superstitions.
And what right do the rulers in Uganda (let alone the fundies in the US) have to tell people not to have sex before marriage???
Repulsive scum :mad:
I agree that few people can resist the urge to have sex outside marriage (I know I couldn't), but I don't see anything wrong with promoting an ideal, even one few people can hold themselves too.
And the Government has the same right to put across a moral message as you do...
By refusing to teach children about condoms (or threatening adults with eternal damnation if they dare use them, as the Catholic Church does for example) they're putting the lives of tens of millions at risk. They should at least make it clear that although they believe abstinence and fidelity are the best way forward, those who are going to do otherwise must use a condom- as oppose to pretending condoms don't exist or they are useless.
Well, what an enlightening statement - the people in Uganda do not care about AIDs or Condoms.
There doesn't seem to be a link to research which backs up your extraordinary statement?
Why is that?
I really feel sorry for people in a lot of the african countries because they are truly one of the most overused political pawns, ever. If the politicians, theologians, philosiphers and everyone else who sticks their nose in actually just thought what was best for the people....
Well yea. not everyones but they are certainly characterisitcs of many people.........
Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Seriously.
Of course some people are more inclined towards stealing, killing and raping...that's not exactly debatable.
On the topic though...education and promotion of condom use seems the best route available.
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Well whatever, the fact is plenty of people do steal, kill and rape for whatever reason, so I guess in your book that makes us all capable of it then, but that seemed to be what you were questioning in the first place which doesn't make any sense.
the fact that some plenty of people do it means either it is human nature for everyone or at least some people are capable of it.........
Ok we are all capable and we can all choose but I am sure you realise that some people are more likely to choose it than others due to a variety of factors.........
Is it human nature or not?
Does the person have to commit the act for it to be human nature or just have the ability and the motivation but still able to choose not to?
Now, if it's part of human nature to act in an evil way, and we can deny it for a better cause, when surely we can deny our sexual impulses in the same way. And to say that some can and some can't as part of some inherited ability, is racism.
Well I think you confuse race and nationality there seeing as UK and US both have large black minorities.......
Again only if you talk about it in a racial context, I could talk about it in a class context for example.......
Yes we cna deny our sexual impulses.
The crux of the matter I think is basically the harm principle.
Yes we can deny the impulse for sex but what I would say is that people do not deserve to be punished in such a severe way for giving in to the impulse as basically it does no harm (on any level comparable to murder)
On the other hand we can deny the impulse for murder but people do deserve to get punished for that as it is an act that commits harm.
Now Christians I iamgine would disagree that sex does no harm and I donn' think there is a neasy way to gte round that fundamnetal disagreement because Chritians have faith in the scriptures and secularists don't.......
What exactly is "indiscriminate sex"?
Religion has worked hard to fuse sexuality and morality, so a lot of the emotional fallout is to do with that ............
We know from watching the Catholic church that many who take vows of abstinence aren't able to keep them - which is one of the reasons that promoting an "absitinence only" poilcy is proving so harmful.
I disagree.
Yes, and I think its possible to have sex with many people, without feeling bad.
But I am sure you will admit that this is not anything like comparable to the harm done by murder is it?
i personally cannot think of any situation in which the harm done by having a one night stand, affair etc is in anyway comparable to that done by a murder, can you?
Damn right you are stretching it!!!
If the magnitude of the sin doesn't fir the punishment then surely something is amiss?