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Holland shut to non Westerners?
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One of the most popular politicians in the Netherlands said Friday the country's democracy is under threat and called for a five-year halt to non-Western immigration in the wake of the killing of a Dutch filmmaker by a suspected Muslim radical.
"We are a Dutch democratic society. We have our own norms and values," right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders told The Associated Press in an interview. "If you chose radical Islam you can leave, and if you don't leave voluntarily then we will send you away. This is the only message possible."
I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of Muslims have contributed to the Netherlands' society...and the focus is only a few really bad people...but only a few.
I'm not saying to ignore it. But doesn't the point of view of closing Holland to non-Westerns expressed to be extreme?
"We are a Dutch democratic society. We have our own norms and values," right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders told The Associated Press in an interview. "If you chose radical Islam you can leave, and if you don't leave voluntarily then we will send you away. This is the only message possible."
I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of Muslims have contributed to the Netherlands' society...and the focus is only a few really bad people...but only a few.
I'm not saying to ignore it. But doesn't the point of view of closing Holland to non-Westerns expressed to be extreme?
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in the 20s/30s it was communism aka political extremists and its clash with western society, these days its religious extremists
Nowadays Neo-conservatism and Environmentalism are two main totalitarian ideologies that have taken places of Fascism and Communism. Religious fundamentalism is a boogie man promoted by both of them to distract public attention from real evils. Wrong. There is a clash of Civilisation ( that is Capitalism) with Barbarism ( that is Mobocracy) Osama and Bush pretend they represent different civilisations. No. They are on the side of Barbarism against Civilisation. He is not far away from truth. Not the best definition of Freedom but not the worst one at least. Exactly true. Terror is winning, both Right terror and Left terror.
But who does give weapons to terrorists?
You.
You all who vote who pay taxes who obey authorities who believe in politicians’ wisdom who are happy to get this or that for free who worship mobocracy.
You take your pants off to be kissed in your arses and then when you are f*cked you are surprised how that could happen!
Yes it is extreme. Luckily no one will pay attention to him.
We have people here saying Britain should be closed to immigration too. Luckily such people are ignored like the shit-stirring racist scumbags they are.
For once I agree with you.
I think you mean the Stalinist brand of communism. Which is not dissimilar to fascism.
How is environmentalism a totalitarian idealogy?
You sure wrote a lot while actually saying fuck all. How is capitalism civililsed? Its an idealogy based on greed, violence and exploitation.
I think you'll find its capitalist businesses that supply weapons.
And "mobocracy"? Have you learnt a new word? Bet you're proud.
http://irenkenya.org/page.php?instructions=page&page_id=11&nav_id=19 No. Capitalist business as it is now is to sell pistols and hunting guns. Tanks, submarines, bombers are bought by states only for taxpayers’ ( not private!) money. Citizens have no right to buy this stuff. I think you agree that the state’s monopsony is in no way a free market? So it is not capitalism. Sorry it is just my translation of the word Democracy. I believe it is a good translation because it uses two meanings of the word mob, 1. crowd 2. mafia. These two meanings combined describe democracy perfectly.
Again, I'd be inclined to agree with you.
Good job I'm not a communist eh?
Apart from being able to pick a few holes in that article (DDT has been proven to be dangerous, malaria can be combatted in other ways etc), I stil fail to see how it proves your environmentalism = totalitarianism thesis.
I think you'll find armaments are made by private companies and sold for profit, so it is capitalism.
You been drinking again?