Could Boris Get the Sack?

Former Member · October 2004

Their opinion is no more valid than mine, despite them being victims of a crime

they (the Payne's) are entitled to campaign

Bigley's relatives have little to campaign for

Former Member · October 2004

Originally posted by morrocan roll
no but i think we can look upon them a little kinder ...understand their rage and pain.

As a public?

We can sympathise, sure, but we cannot possibly understand their rage and pain or genuinely "share" their grief.

Former Member · October 2004

Originally posted by Kentish
As a public?

We can sympathise, sure, but we cannot possibly understand their rage and pain or genuinely "share" their grief.

I bow to you sir

Former Member · October 2004

Originally posted by morrocan roll
no but i think we can look upon them a little kinder ...understand their rage and pain.

I understand and sympathise with them immensely. Don't get me wrong, what has happened to them is truly despicable, and I'd be on the warpath too.

It doesn't mean that their opinions should be pandered to.

Former Member · October 2004

Originally posted by slade
they (the Payne's) are entitled to campaign

Well of course. But their campaign is made no more valid by them being victims of crime. It's just stronger because it is personal. The media obsession with getting campaigns like this going and creating public figures out of victims of crime is really quite pathetic. Public sympathy is no way to get support for legislation.

Former Member · October 2004

Just because, for example, in my life I've had a lot of cancer sufferers, it doesn't make my opinion on cancer treatments or prevention than the lucky person who's never come close.

It's the same thing, you can respect my grief, even my opinion if you agree, but I shouldn't be pandered to.

Former Member · October 2004

Originally posted by Kentish
Public sympathy is no way to get support for legislation.

public sympathy or outrage is an excellent vehicle for pushing agendas.

Former Member · October 2004

Originally posted by Fiend_85

It's the same thing, you can respect my grief, even my opinion if you agree, but I shouldn't be pandered to.

but if you start speaking out ...your speaking with the voice of experience and deserve to be heard.
it's how awareness and dosh are raised.

Former Member · October 2004

Originally posted by morrocan roll
public sympathy or outrage is an excellent vehicle for pushing agendas.

Yeah I was thinking that as I re-read my post. What I meant was that I do not think that public sympathy should be used such. It is effective at pushing agendas because the public are being told what to think and how to feel by the media. eg "You cannot possibly object to Sarah's Law - just look at how the family is suffering."

Former Member · October 2004

Originally posted by morrocan roll
public sympathy or outrage is an excellent vehicle for pushing agendas.

I know.

Look at what Lawrence managed to do.

They even gave the dozy cow a CBE :mad:

Former Member · October 2004

They even gave the dozy cow a CBE

hmm, yes, i don't believe Sara Payne's been so honoured

doreen L figure-headed HMGovt objectives, the implementation of the Mcpherson report. She never came across as particularly bright, just understandably bitter

Sara Payne's objectives didn't coincide with HMGovts

Could Boris Get the Sack?

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