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One can be hostile to a group of people yet be professional enough to work through it.
Everyone has prejudices, racism is quite a serious one, but I've come across teachers who hate boys, who hate girls, who hate chavs. They all impact upon a teacher's ability to teach and maintain discipline. Racism is just the bigotry of the day.
I'll put it another way.
Senior UKIP politicians have said that women belong in the kitchen. Therefore a teacher who belongs to the UKIP could be construed as mysogynistic, should UKIP be banned?
Communist parties claim that the rich are scum and should be violently overthrown. Can a communist teacher be trusted to teach a rich child?
if you ban all members of all political parties from the civil service, the yeh fine, seperating the civil service from party politics, but you cant do it based on political views
yet another sign of where this country is heading
Ok, i know we can't expect teachers to have no prejudices it is human nature, some teachers i had were blatantly sexist, and some teachers make no effort to hide personal dislikes of pupils, but we shouldn't encourage it, and i think allowing a member of the BNP to teach is.
One UKIP politician may have made that comment, but he is one person out of thousands of members , is that comment about women in their manifesto? I don't think it is, whilst the BNP manifesto clearly admits a bias against immigrants and ethnic minorites.
I do understand your point, if we ban them, they just won't admit membership, but should the alternative be to let them teach regardless of the consequences? And this for me doesn't just apply to BNP members, extremist muslin groups shouldn't be allowed to teach either, any group of this nature should be kept out of schools.
You point outr "extremist Muslims"- what about extremist Christians? Who defines which Christians are "extremist"- Aladdin thinks the Catholic Church are "extremist".
I am simply saying that the line has to be drawn at all political participation, or none of it. Once you start drawing a line arbritrarily, the views of each administration could change where that line is. Suppose in five years time we have a far left administratyion, it is feasible that the Conserrvative Party could be banned for preaching capitalism.
Once you start interfering with who can think what, it is a slippery slope to totalitarianism.
I would draw the line when the beliefs of a person include a prejudice against another race, sex, etc., people can have differences, but when it is blatant hatred this is wrong. And my point about "extremist muslins" should apply to Christians if they have extremist views too. By extremist I mean views which encourage violence or hatred against others.
But i see your point, it is unfortunate that people cannot be sensible about these things, I wouldn't want totalitarianism, but i just think it is sad that groups like this are allowed to exist.
To try and regulate or even legislate against beliefs is crazy, membership of one party or another really means nothing.
Take away a BNP racists membership card, what happens? They stop being racist?
The BNP don't say anywhere that they "hate" ethnic minorities, they just want "Britain" for the "British". It doesn't promote violence or hatred at ll, if we're going to be pernickety, bearing in mind that you have already discounted the personal views of party members as irrelevant.
As I've said before, communists preach violence and hatred against a class of people. Socialists do too- they encourage the poor to "hate" the rich.
No line can ever be drawn, unless you don't actually think freedom is worth anything.
I am all for freedom, and freedom of speech, I do not believe we should ban the BNP, it is just sad that people like this exist.
But there has to be a limit on freedom, we'll never really stop murders, or rape, or child abuse, these have been going on since the dawn of time, BUT it doesn't mean we should do nothing to prevent these acts, we should do everything in our power to minimise them.
If you take a child abuser's access to children away, doesn't mean they stop wanting to abuse, but we need to prevent it, sadly i don't know the best way to do it. Child abuser's just go underground, and i know the BNP would just go underground if we banned it, it is just sad that the alternative is to allow these people to influence society.
I would be very careful inc omparing the BNP to rapists. They might be abhorrent, but they're not that bad.
Being passively racist does nobody any harm, though.
Given their press coverage you'd think they were a major party, they are FAR from it.
Personally I just think they should be, in the main, ignored.
Fair enough, they don't use the word "hate," or openly promote violence they are cleverer than that, but i can see through their flowery language: they will give all ethnic minorities the oppurtunity to go back to their homeland? What if they want to stay? And what about mixed race kids?
I do totally believe in freedom, that's why unfortunately i have to concede that this awful party has to be allowed exist, but if they got in i don't think freedom would be high on their list of priorities.
The media interest makes them look bigger than they are, so people use them as a protest vote because they see how quickly everyone comes running if a BNP councillor gets in on their estate.
It wasn't really a comparison, i was just noting that one can't be free to do anything that we want, this includes rape.
I hope you are right, I truly do, but look at France, they got too close...
I understand the need for freedom of speech in all areas, it's just sad people will us this for negative means.
The new immigrants from Northern Africa have upset what people saw as a delicate balance.
And again, as with the BNP here Le Penn is a reaction, it is a protest vote.
And, as with here if more was done about the 'sink hole' estates then there wouldnt be as many people voting for Le Penn.