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shannon_164

hey, this is just a random question really that has just come into my head but obviously the mix is a service for the uk only - england, scotland, wales & northern ireland.

as someone from northern ireland, i am very much aware of this issue, however i imagine many in mainland uk are not actually aware as many people ive encountered from mainland uk don’t seem to even know northern ireland exists and cant get their head around the fact that i live in the uk, but not in england, scotland or wales but i also dont live in ireland - it is a common issue haha but as a citizen of northern ireland you can choose whether you choose to identify as british or irish, or even if you want to hold a british passport, an irish passport or both. it depends on who you talk to, some people believe northern ireland is northern ireland and apart of the uk therefore we are british, others believe northern ireland is actually the north of ireland and apart of ireland therefore we are irish.

knowing that information, it’s really made me think, what if a person who was living in belfast lets say, therefore can access the mix as belfast is located within the uk technically speaking, however they have grew up in a family that believe that belfast is apart of ireland and they are irish, which is totally ok, so they would then say they live in ireland - would this mean they couldn’t access the mix then? even though they live in northern ireland, they just hold the belief that this is ireland?

especially now with the box that pops up saying “are you currently in the uk?” as they would highly likely hit no then as they believe they are in ireland. i know from living here that some people take it really seriously, as in is this ireland / northern ireland and even on the likes of tiktok, anyone who mentions northern ireland / north of ireland on a tiktok or puts a place in northern ireland with a british flag or an irish flag, the comment section is the just filled with people arguing over is this northern ireland / north of ireland / ireland / the uk.

*i hope this doesn’t at all come across as i have an issue with people choosing to identify as irish when technically speaking they are from northern ireland which is apart of the uk, as i genuinely do not care what people identify as, if you feel you’re british then that’s cool, if you feel you’re irish then that’s cool - i don’t at all have a problem and just wanted to clarify!!*

sorry this is such a random question (and sooo long too!!!) but things like this randomly pop into my brain at silly o’clock when i should be sleeping lol anyways thank you if you made it this far, here is your medal: 🏅 hehehe

Lottie5433

That seems like such a valid question thar many would have torn views over, I'd like to here the response that comes back to this

independent_

Also following this closely. I suppose it very much depends on what a person has grown up thinking. Different situation, but I’m English, but I live in Scotland. Half my family are Scottish and half are english. I sometimes refer to myself as English and sometimes Scottish, because technically speaking I am both.

Though, Northern Ireland is part of the UK, so so long as the person is aware of that, it shouldn’t stop them from using the mix if they want to.

shannon_164

i totally get what you mean @independent_ though i was thinking more just with ireland obviously not being apart of the uk, its not really the same as what you’ve explained about being english / scottish as either way, you’re still in the uk if you’re in england or scotland.

Though, Northern Ireland is part of the UK, so so long as the person is aware of that, it shouldn’t stop them from using the mix if they want to.

i know technically speaking, being in a place that is northern ireland even if you feel that this is ireland, you can still access the mix, however, there are people that take it rather seriously to say the least so that’s what i was thinking i guess?

apologies if this comes across as having a go at you or something as that is not at all what i mean - i’m just unsure of how best to explain, but i apologise if that’s how it comes across!!

independent_

Not at all, don't worry! It's a tough one isn't it

Faolan

Valid question. This will forever be a raw topic for Ireland and north of Ireland. There is still very much a divide.

Maybe a good way to tackle this would be to put “are you currently in the UK (including NI). Carefully wording this myself because “northern Ireland” is insulting for some. 😂😂😂

Tbh, I feel like however you identify, British or Irish, Catholic of Prod, you can’t deny that once you cross the border and you’re using euro you’re no longer in the UK😂 and you don’t have to be British to be living in the UK. You can live there and identify as Irish. Many people do.

I’d be interested to hear how it works for me though.. and for all those touching the border. Donegal, Cavan, Monaghan, Louth etc 😅

TheNightmare

Faolan wrote: »

Valid question. This will forever be a raw topic for Ireland and north of Ireland. There is still very much a divide.

Maybe a good way to tackle this would be to put “are you currently in the UK (including NI). Carefully wording this myself because “northern Ireland” is insulting for some. 😂😂😂

Tbh, I feel like however you identify, British or Irish, Catholic of Prod, you can’t deny that once you cross the border and you’re using euro you’re no longer in the UK😂 and you don’t have to be British to be living in the UK. You can live there and identify as Irish. Many people do.

I’d be interested to hear how it works for me though.. and for all those touching the border. Donegal, Cavan, Monaghan, Louth etc 😅

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