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What do young people REALLY think?
Former Member
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(TW: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape.)
Hi Guys,
So I've just finished watching BBC3's documentary about where young people stand over the debate on consent.
I have to say I have never been so wound up and angry over a TV programme before. The things some of these YP have come out with is acrually quite scary. If you haven't seen it, it is currently on iPlayer. If not, a brief outline of it was that a mixed group of young people aged 16-18 were taken to an undisclosed location for a few days and their views on consent were put to the test. They were shown a dramatisation in three parts which written specifically for this documentary and they had
to decide whether they thought what they were being shown was classed as rape or sexual assault or whether it was simply a misunderstanding.
What do the rest of you think? Did any of you see it? Do you think consent should be something taught on the National Curriculum or in PSHE lessons in schools? I'm interested to see what the rest of you all think.
- ShatteredSecrets
Hi Guys,
So I've just finished watching BBC3's documentary about where young people stand over the debate on consent.
I have to say I have never been so wound up and angry over a TV programme before. The things some of these YP have come out with is acrually quite scary. If you haven't seen it, it is currently on iPlayer. If not, a brief outline of it was that a mixed group of young people aged 16-18 were taken to an undisclosed location for a few days and their views on consent were put to the test. They were shown a dramatisation in three parts which written specifically for this documentary and they had
to decide whether they thought what they were being shown was classed as rape or sexual assault or whether it was simply a misunderstanding.
What do the rest of you think? Did any of you see it? Do you think consent should be something taught on the National Curriculum or in PSHE lessons in schools? I'm interested to see what the rest of you all think.
- ShatteredSecrets
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I can't understand why things like consent, rape, etc aren't in school. I think they and sexual relationships are very important.
Stuff like this should absolutely be taught properly in schools. It'll teach monsters not to be monsters and it'll teach people from a younger age about what's right and what isn't. This kind of thing is way more important than maths, english etc. I think it's absolutely fucking ridiculous that this is such a vague subject in school, that's if it is even mentioned.
It really simplifies things for anyone confused by comparing consent to offering someone a cup of tea.
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And I'd agree with you @Past User I think it should be taught at school/college for sure :yes:
I got shown this exact video at my uni introduction. We got a chat from some guy from a company called uni smart about various wellbeing topics. They showed us this video during the presentation- just thought I'd say.
Same at my uni, it was shown to all freshers at the start of term. I think people are realising how lacking the education is at school and trying to make up for it, which isn't a bad thing.
The police get a lot of stick so credit where it is due- Thames Valley Police are using that video in their latest campaign.
Consent needs to be taught as part of sex and relationship education, as does domestic violence. I don't like the specific "consent workshops" that some universities have taken to running, because it puts consent in a silo and, even more to the point, just annoys and antagonises the very people it's meant to be enlightening.
The reason why it needs to be taught as part of sex, not separate to it, is because consent is so nuanced and, really, consent is such a big part of sexual enjoyment. Consent isn't signing a form in triplicate allowing someone to touch their tra-la-la with their ding-ding-dong. It's about grabbing hold of someone and pulling them deeper into you, it's saying "touch me there, harder, ooh yeah". Selling consent as just good sex- and lets face it, which man doesn't want to be known as shit-hot in bed- is going to be far more productive than a lecture on what no means and what yes means.
Things that are NOT yes:
- I'm not sure
- ummm
- wait
- I don't care
- whatever
- no response at all
Like it's not really that hard? Yes on occasion 1 does not mean yes on occasion 2.Sorry guys it's just something that really bothers me. Perhaps being a survivor of sexual violence really solidifies my views on this. But I definitely agree that if it is taught in schools/colleges then it must be done in an almost interactive way? Like don't lecture them because it just will not go in. I'm currently at university and I was not given any talks like this. I think everyone really should be given it tho. I think the video about the cup of tea really hits the nail on the head there!
It worries me that people still don't know this stuff and they still think it's fine. Consent isn't on the curriculum and it clearly needs to be - after this the group definitely seemed to be thinking more and the one guy actually considering whether he could have done something in the past is quite scary.
Completely agree with you, Kate. You would have thought it would honestly be common knowledge. I suppose younger people just want to mess around and show off to their friends.. but at the cost of somebody else's mental health and dignity. It is honestly just way too far.