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UN attacked in Iraq.
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Firstly I have to say how much i mourn the loss of the UN special Envoy, he was beginning to build bridges between the US and the Iraqis and it is a sad loss for the UN and the people of Iraq.
A bomb exploded today in Baghdad killing 16 (i think) in the UN headquarters. It was a truck bomb and used methods similar to those seen in Bali and the US embassy bombings. This attack on the UN it seems is exactly the right way to destabilise Iraq further. If the UN have to accept American protection then they lose any shred of credibility they had. Which means that they have to pull out for fear of more deaths, if they pull out it leaves only the Americans to carry on butchering the Iraqis as they see fit. It is a clever attack and it scares me.
A bomb exploded today in Baghdad killing 16 (i think) in the UN headquarters. It was a truck bomb and used methods similar to those seen in Bali and the US embassy bombings. This attack on the UN it seems is exactly the right way to destabilise Iraq further. If the UN have to accept American protection then they lose any shred of credibility they had. Which means that they have to pull out for fear of more deaths, if they pull out it leaves only the Americans to carry on butchering the Iraqis as they see fit. It is a clever attack and it scares me.
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Countries will rally around the UN and offer their assistance in Iraq.
And let the Wahhabists from Saudi and the mad Mullahs from Iran into the country?
You would end up with another dictatorship , and thats the last thing Iraqis want.
The US has to stay the course , Iraq must be rebuilt , as a democracy.
The UN as a whole should be welcomed in the reconstruction effort.
Sorry, clever if you want to destabilise Iraq. Of course it was barbaric and stupid to take peoples lives.
Unfortunately the UN's name is forever linked with the economic sanctions that have killed more than 500,000 people in Iraq. As well as other rows, WMDs, etc.
This is a bit unfair on the UN as it is only the sum of its member states and the organisation itself does not participate in military operations. It was even against an intervention in Iraq. But I guess the only goal the terrorists have is to cause maximum chaos and destruction in an attempt to drive out all foreigners.
As usual the people who will ultimately pay the price are ordinary Iraqis.
Did the first Gulf War not include Islamic countries?
Does every Islamic country consist of Wahhabists and 'Mad Mullahs'
You talk about democracy, well let the Americans ask the Iraqi people whose assistance they want then.
So, lets teach them the American way, as shown by the honest election of George Bush :eek2:
Furthermore, who are we to bomb other people to pieces and impose democracy on them?
It's all a bit too fucking rich considering the democratic country behind all this is ruled by the man who didn't win the election.
There was an uprising after the first Gulf War. It was put down brutally (100, 000 deaths?). You underestimate the power of said butcher.
Definitely.
It's a complete mess now and the hostility towards the American troops there is only going to grow if something doesn't change. However, like Aladdin said, there is going to be hostility towards any intervening western organisation. Some sort of rapport needs to be established, more communication is needed.
It is only a matter of time before a true Iraqi democracy is in place.
As for the attacks , the terror masters of Riyadh , Damascus and Teheran are running scared because a wonderous thing is happening , democracy is being born in the Middle East.
They will fight it every step of the way , and we must not stay from the course , the Iraqi Democracy must be protected.
I just hope the interim government is effective at establishing rapport and voicing everyone's perspective and view otherwise how will a democracy be formed? Before any kind of democracy is formed; services like electricity and water need to re-established and some kind of normality regained just so that the people are safe. How many Iraqi people feel safe at the moment I wonder?
Nonsense, it has a majority of people who have no relevance to Iraq nor the suffering it has undergone for the past 12 years because they are nothing more than criminal cohorts of the Bush administration from Dearborn Michigan who have lived in ease and comfort in the US whilst real Iraqis suffered under US-enforced sanctions and bombings.
Chief amongst these illegitimates is Chalabi himself, wanted as he is for massive financial fraud in Jordan.
No true democracy can be "imposed" or perhaps you know too little of politics and sociology to comprehend that fact. Any system that does not arise naturally from amongst a people, according to their will and unhindered by foreign meddling can hope to call itself democracy.
You are truly naive if you believe any of those who oppose our continual exploitation, invasion, occupation and dictats are running scared.
Even periods of quiet are little more than the calm before the renewed storm.
If we truly care about bringing peace to the planet and especially to such troubled regions as this then it is our leaders who must cease the imperialistic corporate backed crusades and start adhering to the rule of law themselves rather than merely spouting on about forcing everyone else to abide by it.
Until we are ready to accept that a vast majority of the planet do not welcome our interventionism, regardless of whether they may share our values, we will only continue to pursue blatant self interest over true global social justice. This fact will keep the cycle of violence going on ad infinitum.
Which would only serve to make the present situation in Iraq look like stability. If the Americans said that they would look like they were disrespecting Islam which would play right into these terrorists hands and would turn the vast majority of Iraqis against them. Besides which any body parts found are often charred beyond recognition, how could you tell you were disrepecting the terrorists or innocent Iraqis?
Tell me how happily and willingly you accept foreign troops in your neighbourhood or breaking down your front door to search for their opposition?
Like ive said many times before, if Iraqi troops were doing in our countries what our soldiers are doing in theirs, youd bet we'd all fight back in the same way to undermine their self-serving intentions.