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i laughed when i read today in the papers that british troops... america have decided, are to secure the oil sites. this way the americans can't be accused of you know the story.
so how about our tony realy shows what he's made of aye! we get the oil and tell george to fuck off. he gets not one fucking thimbul full of oil until he backs an independant palestine. a propper enforced if neccessary peace settlement. go on tony, tell the ass to go fuck himself, thats our oil. would the american public back thy're forces to attack british troops, seeing as they didn't go there for the oil in the first place. go on tony.
so how about our tony realy shows what he's made of aye! we get the oil and tell george to fuck off. he gets not one fucking thimbul full of oil until he backs an independant palestine. a propper enforced if neccessary peace settlement. go on tony, tell the ass to go fuck himself, thats our oil. would the american public back thy're forces to attack british troops, seeing as they didn't go there for the oil in the first place. go on tony.
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I hope to god that our government doesnt try to exploit this situation in Iraq and use it to influence other areas of foreign policy.
That is incredibly dangerous.
and if such a statement throws the middle east into a large scale war centred around Israel?
Im glad that our government wouldnt ever be so rash and short sighted.
As for the oil, perhaps they should just burn it, since is more of a curse to the world than a benefit nowadays. I read a letter in one of the papers today and the correspondent had a good point: forget fossil fuels and use vegetable oil instead (which can run on many engines and with less emissions). That way we can give a new lease of life to our farmers and devalue the importance of the evil black stuff.
the europeans could come to our aid. we demand that america uses this moment in time to change the course of history for the good of all of us. we get to own the oil and the yanks can buy it off us. what a glorious moment it would be for our beloved leader tony. for "our boys" in the dessert. oh fuck it i'll have to come back to poodle polotics i suppose. wheres my rizzla gone?
You scare me far more than some of our hardcore trolls.
burning it aladin and actualy growing our own and revitalizing the countryside i live in... don't talk fuckin daft! thats far to sensible and easy. if we grew hemp...then your realy talking. it can produce motor fuel and more goods than any other plant on earth. it's a low maintanance crop...no weeding or spraying. i know about this subject.
Hamas, through continued suicide attacks and bombings, has guided Isreal to be even more right wing because people are coming to the conclusion that Hamas and others don't want a Palestinian state, they want Isreal destroyed.
The results? Sharon won't even have a labor coalition government. Hamas and others don't want peace while Isreal exists.
So it should be no surprise the Sharon has declared European opinion irrelevant and America's suggestion for an independent Palestinian state premature.
Besides, if peace were established he wouldnt have a ready made target ground to make use of all the sophisticated weaponry he buys from us.
As for peace in 2005, don't fool yourself into believing that this is anything but Bush's way of sweeping his responsibility under the rug. Bush is a war maker not a peacemaker.
anyways.:D
Saddam already tried that, remember?
First, the US already had possession of those oilfields...and left. Second, it isn't the US who needs oil from those oilfields..it's Europe.
Substitute "Arafat" for "Sharon" and the paragraph is still perfectly accurate.
Interesting. US imported $88.4 bn of oil in Nov. 2002, whereas the UK is a net exporter of oil. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall that approximately one-third of US oil is supplied by North slope Prudhoe stuff, but I don't think that's light sweet crude, either.
UK exports to some of Europe, too.
I would argue that, as the world's largest consumer, the US needs the oil more than Europe, especially with the decline in European manufacture not being matched in the States.
Did try to do that, but statistics are not forthcoming. Or at least weren't in my brief look.
I confess to knowing very little about it, but surely if Europe needed the oil, France & Germany would be very keen to see a war with Saddam to secure Gulf crude prices...?
America isnt in any danger of running out or even facing any unusual price hikes if Iraq stopped exporting completely.
Never understood this oil argument tbh
Its not about where people currently buy their oil from but who will control the most sources of it and thereby ensure that it is eventually only bought from them. This is hegemony in its purest and most transparent form and its no credit to your intelligence or willingness to question what you are really fighting for (certainly not our nation's freedom or democracy).
The Post WWII military is a state controlled mercenary force serving big business interests both current and future. If you cant see that from our 20th century wars with NK and Vietnam (both conveniently cloaked under the rousing banner of Anti-Communism) then I can only compliment our chiefs of staff on a comprehnsive and effective brainwashing process.
Now that would depend on just how pissed off OPEC became. And as for how dependent the West generally is on oil you need look no further than 1974.
I dont think the US is after the oil because it needs it, but because it does not like being dictated to by OPEC. The US generally does not like being bossed about, as many of its recent wars have shown, most spectacularly in North Korea.
And of course there is no proof of this feeling I have, but I dont think its any more preposterous than the idea that destroying Saddam will rid the world of Al Qaeda. Given that most terrorist arrests seem to be emanating from Algeria, that idea is even more ridiculous.
but at the wrong time and in the wrong way. i seriously think this is the collapse of the last super power. were all going to feel the repercussions.
How exactly could it have taken all the oil in Iraq as the wars mandate was simply to protect Kuwait and push Iraq back into its own territory?
The difference this time is that with the propaganda a change of leader to a more...amenable...leader is on the cards, its been openly stated by Bush.
Do you need Professor Libestrom to explain it to you as well?
that was then. the world has changed. whoever...whatever...the heart of america has been attacked in quite a spectacular way.
there is no way that america is going to let anyone control the middle east oil supplies. different reasons now. osama is not going to be alowed home to overthrow the royal family so that he can switch the oil off. american muscle is being flexed. it's power is about to be unleashed. but these things were so obviously being planned long before the rigged election. long before 9/11.