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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Is it at all risky to give someone your IP address for them to send you a picture in the right format?
This person keeps asking me for it cos apparently the picture is in linux but twice my computer has crashed after giving the number. I don't know anything about computers but I was just wondering about this one cos it seems kind of coincidental!

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: IP Number
    Originally posted by Pink Soda
    Is it at all risky to give someone your IP address for them to send you a picture in the right format?
    This person keeps asking me for it cos apparently the picture is in linux but twice my computer has crashed after giving the number. I don't know anything about computers but I was just wondering about this one cos it seems kind of coincidental!

    I would advise you give no one your IP address... ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thanks and oops.....So why is that?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Pink

    DO NOT give people your IP address. All sites track your IP address when you log on and it usually changes every time you log on to the net anyway. BUT, if someone is specifically asking you for your IP address it means they want to connect to your computer. Once they connect to your computer they have access to your files and can read your passwords and any other personal and confidential information you might have.

    There is no need for anyone to have your IP address to send you pictures. That is crap. Also, DO NOT accept anything that is in .exe format. It is a program and can run on your computer and do nasty stuff to it. Pictures are usually in .jpg format. If they say, oh the file is compressed or whatever don't be believe them and don't open it. If it is not in a .jpg format, it could be a virus.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ok thanks MrLuvr you've helped me alot. Yeah you're right the IP number did change each time and I guess it's lucky my computer crashed twice. Well at least I kind of figured it out and didn't give the IP number again. I was told the IP number was needed because the picture was in linus and not windows format which I said sounded like crap but apparently not.
    Anyway I'll remember never to give out my IP number!
    Thanks -x
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Your IP address is of no relevance when converting a picture. Indeed you shouldn't even need to convert a picture just because it's being used in Linux. A jpeg is the same in windows as in Linux.

    Possibly your computer was crashing because whoever was getting your IP address was running a lame little script designed to crash windows PCs over the 'net. That could be why they wanted your IP address.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    All sites track your IP address when you log on and it usually changes every time you log on to the net anyway.

    Thats not strictly true, it depends if your ISP has given you a static IP address or not... if your on a broadband connection your IP address is likely to remain static.

    There is no need for anyone to have your IP address to send you pictures.

    Again, not strictly true... think about it this way:

    computer 1 (192.168.0.1) <<--- picture transfer --->> computer 2 (222.101.3.4)

    People genuinely don't need to know them, but your computer does... now without the IP address how is the computer going to know where to send the files too... this works with all transfers even those by MSN or Yahoo! except the key thing is Microsoft hides them using its version of NAT which isn't very secure.. for example if I was being sent a file from someone using MSN I could easily find that persons IP by using a little NETSTAT command.

    Now in usual microsoft terms they wouldn't really need to know your IP as the programs do it all for you.. but this person is using Linux which requires a bit more programming... again it depends what program they are using.

    Possibly your computer was crashing because whoever was getting your IP address was running a lame little script designed to crash windows PCs over the 'net.

    Ahhh, now its starting to make sense, DoS (Denial Of Service) attacks on Microsoft... basically where a 'haxor wannabe' uses some cheesy program which does something along the lines of sending lots of garbled data on port 189, the computer gets confused and you get the Blue screen.

    I'm assuming your using an older version of Windows, Microsoft have repaired your typical 'NUKE' attack with the critical updates which can be downloaded either off the 'Windows Update' site, the Microsoft Security Website, by use of a firewall (with certain ports blocked) or various programs available online.... :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ???

    Justin,

    Why are you confusing the issue here? She is not an IT guru like you are. So, in the most simplistic terms, she should not be giving out her IP address to anyone. It is better to be safe than sorry.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But what I did point out, which wasn't highlighted by anyone else, is that she didn't have DoS protection and I told her where to get it from in order to stop this kind of attack in the future...

    IP addresses aren't the hardest or most kept secret in the world now are they? Just because she doesn't give one or or yourself for that matter.. doesn't mean you won't get attacked and if you don't have adaquate protection its not fun...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Justin Credible

    Thats not strictly true, it depends if your ISP has given you a static IP address or not... if your on a broadband connection your IP address is likely to remain static.

    People genuinely don't need to know them, but your computer does... now without the IP address how is the computer going to know where to send the files too... this works with all transfers even those by MSN or Yahoo! except the key thing is Microsoft hides them using its version of NAT which isn't very secure.. for example if I was being sent a file from someone using MSN I could easily find that persons IP by using a little NETSTAT command.

    I think most broadband accounts, in the UK at least, don't have static IPs - I think some places will offer it, at a cost.

    Also, if someone wants to send a picture, what's wrong with emailing it? That way, IP addresses don't come into it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by satan
    I think most broadband accounts, in the UK at least, don't have static IPs - I think some places will offer it, at a cost.

    True, but if you reconnect within an hour or so you often get the same IP address, and if like me your network is permanantly connected to the net and reconects immeadiatly the line goes down for whatever reason it will pretty much stay the same..

    My IP changes about once every 2-3 months when the service goes down for a while.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think Justin made some valid but techie points.
    Personally I suggest you get a good firewall installed that blocks most intruder attacks. Zone Alarm have a free version that is adequate for most people. You'd be suprised at how often these attacks are attempted once you start logging them!

    Here's a decent web site to read: http://grc.com but it may be a bit 'whoosh' :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you are on Broadband then you will have a static IP address. Your modem is ALWAYS connected to the network, regardless of wether your PC is switched on or not. You need to have the same IP address because the ISP needs to be able to compare your details to the ones on its database. Because you don't dialup with a username each time the ISP needs to locate you at the same location each time. The only time your IP changes is if you unplug the modem, then yu have to wait 10 minutes for the modem to locate the connection again.


    To stop hackers download Zonealarm.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere
    If you are on Broadband then you will have a static IP address. Your modem is ALWAYS connected to the network, regardless of wether your PC is switched on or not. You need to have the same IP address because the ISP needs to be able to compare your details to the ones on its database. Because you don't dialup with a username each time the ISP needs to locate you at the same location each time. The only time your IP changes is if you unplug the modem, then yu have to wait 10 minutes for the modem to locate the connection again.


    To stop hackers download Zonealarm.

    I have broadband through Freeserve, and the IP does change occasionally. Remeber that the most common self-install adsl now is the green frog powered from the usb port, so it's powered off every time the shuts down.
    Zone alarm is free and good but it keeps forgetting my settings Grr!.
    We did a test here with the http://grc.com port probe etc and found the Windows XP native firewall adequate against incoming attacks for now.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Mine's through NTL, the modem has it's own powersupply and is connected to the mains, so it never switches off. good really because it takes 10 minutes to boot!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aha. Mine is left downloading most of the time :D I use stand-by or hibernate instead of a full shut down for speed.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Who Where is talking about cable Broad band, which is subtely different to ADSL..... ADSL modems as a generall Take less time to initialise, and in most cases get disconected when you switch off your PC. I use an ADSL modem, but plugged into a webrouter/firewall that is on 24/7.
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