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penalties for sex offences
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I found these and I was just interested to see if everyone agrees with them or can think of anymore offences which aren't covered by the law.
existing penalties for sex offences
Rape: life imprisonment (all quoted sentences are maximum penalties).
Indecent assault (on a woman): 10 years.
Burglary with intent to commit rape (14 years in a home: 10 years in any other building).
Applying drugs to a woman to obtain sexual intercourse: 2 years.
Indecent exposure: 3 months. 1 year for second or subsequent conviction.
Gross indecency (act of indecency between men, not in private) 2 years.
Assault with intent to commit buggery or anal sex. 10 years.
Sexual intercourse with a girl under 16: 2 years.
Sexual intercourse with a girl under 13: life imprisonment.
Indecency with a child under 14: 10 years.
Incest: where victim is under 13, life imprisonment; otherwise 7 years.
Causing or encouraging prostitution: 2 years.
Man living on the earnings of female prostitution: 7 years.
Woman exercising control over prostitutes: 7 years.
Living on earnings of male prostitution: 7 years
From: channel four health website
existing penalties for sex offences
Rape: life imprisonment (all quoted sentences are maximum penalties).
Indecent assault (on a woman): 10 years.
Burglary with intent to commit rape (14 years in a home: 10 years in any other building).
Applying drugs to a woman to obtain sexual intercourse: 2 years.
Indecent exposure: 3 months. 1 year for second or subsequent conviction.
Gross indecency (act of indecency between men, not in private) 2 years.
Assault with intent to commit buggery or anal sex. 10 years.
Sexual intercourse with a girl under 16: 2 years.
Sexual intercourse with a girl under 13: life imprisonment.
Indecency with a child under 14: 10 years.
Incest: where victim is under 13, life imprisonment; otherwise 7 years.
Causing or encouraging prostitution: 2 years.
Man living on the earnings of female prostitution: 7 years.
Woman exercising control over prostitutes: 7 years.
Living on earnings of male prostitution: 7 years
From: channel four health website
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The problems doesnt come with the maximum tariffs though, but with the fact most sexual attackers dont get the maximum tariff. I bet a burglar intending to rape wouldnt get 10 years, and I know rapists dont get life.
Exactly. They most certainly don't. :mad:
Why does incest automatically have a reduced charge if the person is over 13? 7 years is fucking pitiful.
Nevermind. This stuff makes me furious.
Thirteen is the age that the law deems a girl capable of knowing what sex is, and can give consent to sex, although it is illegal to actually do it with her. Girls aged under 13 do not know what sex is, and, as such, are incapable of giving consent...thus, it is rape.
The penalty changes are because under-13s are raped, over-13s are not. This, of course, deals with CONSENSUAL incest, and not rape by members of the family, which is still life imprisonment as it is rape.
Indecent assault (on a woman): 10 years. - MAYBE, depends on severity...I was minorly assaulted a couple of weeks ago...I've had nightmares and when I pass the place where it happened, I start trembling and have flashbacks, but I wouldn't say 10 years for the pervert(whom the shithead police never found. i live in fear now
Burglary with intent to commit rape (14 years in a home: 10 years in any other building). NO, maybe 1/2 that is sufficient
Applying drugs to a woman to obtain sexual intercourse: 2 years. YES
Indecent exposure: 3 months. 1 year for second or subsequent conviction. YES, although I'd say 6 months and 2 years
Gross indecency (act of indecency between men, not in private) 2 years. NO, 6 months?...I've never heard of this crime, so I don't really have anyway to judge.
Assault with intent to commit buggery or anal sex. 10 years. YES
Sexual intercourse with a girl under 16: 2 years. NO, if its completely voluntary, maybe 1 year...if forced: life
Sexual intercourse with a girl under 13: life imprisonment. NO, if voluntary, 20 years; if forced: life
Indecency with a child under 14: 10 years.
Incest: where victim is under 13, life imprisonment; older than 13 and forced, life; older than 13 and voluntary...don't know
Causing or encouraging prostitution: 2 years. YES
Man living on the earnings of female prostitution: 7 years. YES
Woman exercising control over prostitutes: 7 years. YES
Living on earnings of male prostitution: 7 years. YES
Except for the prostitution stuff...
In this country you'll be lucky if a life sentence runs for 20 years!
Is it possible?
Yes, it is possible, although unless actual penetration with something (an object, vibrator etc) was proved then they would probably be charged with indecent assault.
Within the last year a woman was found guilty of raping another woman. In UK law any person taking part in a rape through holding someone down etc can be charged with rape.
Is it possible for a woman to rape a man?
I know what I am about to say is really silly but you never know, it could happen:
Man and woman having sex, she ties him up but he decides he wants to stop. She won't untie him despite him telling her to stop and let him free.
She gives him oral sex against his wishes and so forth...
Could the guy say she raped him?
Sexual intercourse with a girl under 13: life imprisonment. NO, if voluntary, 20 years; if forced: life
What about sex with an underage boy? And why should voluntary sex result in them still going to prison? Why doesn't the girl go to prison too? Argh, I've confused myself.
I give up.
Laws regarding the age of consent are driven by values that are rapidly vanishing from western society and which are designed to repress sexual freedom and choice.
If children know thay can't legally do something then they think it must be something really great and are likely to want to 'give it a go'. If there was no age of consent then I don't think people would place as much importance on sex at a young age.
However, like I said, I see a need to protect younger children, and a lot of people who have sex at a young age say they wish they could have waited until they were older and in a secure loving relationship. I don't think when you are 13/14 that you are emotionally mature enough to handle a relationship which involves sex. I know I wasn't.
Bumblebee
Is it possible for a woman to rape a man?
Yes, under the situation that you described, or if a 17 yesr old woman had sex with a 15 year old man.
I think these should both be considerd rape under the current definitions of the word, but i doubt that they would be taken seriously by the police.
This is another of the great sexual inadequacys in this country... I agree that some people need to be protected against preditors.. the children and the elderly (maybe add disabled into here...)
but we seem to be classing women as weak and in need of protection...
Classing half of sociaty like that seems ludicrus to me... esp. because people have been fighting for years to get women equal rights as men.
Also i note that their is a given listing for indecent assult on a woman... but not on a man. Same as applying drugs to gain sexual intercourse... is this really something thats only a crime when performed agaisnt a woman?
Similar note : I've read in the papers about some very underage girls having babies. Does this mean the underage "fathers" were sent to prison? They were having sex with an underage girl... and shouldn't the girl be sent to prison aswell... they have just had jailbait sex themselves....
Maybe if we sent all of the young mothers and fathers to prison for a few year... we'd have fuller prisons.
OK, but whats the point in having a law if its only going to be applied selectivly???
man kissing a man in public
man holding another guys hand
not applicable to women [ie 2 women can kiss]
not been used for years as blatantly an illegial law under the ECHR fro above reason. It also used to cover things like asking for a guys phone number was considered solicitation, and gay consexual sex could only be between 2 men, never 3 or 4 or.....
repealed in the sexual offences [amendment] act 2001, when they equalised ages of consent
AFAIK it is indecent assault not rape if it is a boy under 16 having sex with a 17yr old girl, forced or not
I went to the police and made a general inquiry (i.e. "so if one of my friends was raped by her boyfriend etc etc how many years would he get?) and the reply was "It depends on the severity of the rape etc etc etc but he could get a life sentence, however these rarely last longer than 20 years" Now what I want to know is why the fuck do so-called "life" sentences only last 20 years or so? Are they trying to tell me that if I had gone to the police, he could've been locked up but after 20 years (if that) he could quite easily come after me again, as malicious as ever, only this time he would be even more so, because he'd spent the past 20 years of his life in the clink?
The system of law is fucked. 'Scuse my french.
I did not go to the police, and I live in regret of it. Not a lot I can do now. It has fucked up my life, and the life of my best friend. I cannot have an intimate relationship with a man because of it, and I can no longer take much pleasure at all in any form of physical contact. What makes it worse is that I used to find practically all of my comfort in hugging my best friend, and I can no longer do that as I flinch and my whole body starts shaking as soon as I am touched by anyone, and there is nothing I can do about it.
If anyone else has had a similar experience (i.e. rape, indecent assault etc) feel free to contact me.
I doubt after 20 years he would come looking for you as you say because he would end up back in prison. I think the whole point would be to punish him.
I feel for you I really do. Perhaps you should talk to a counsellor or doctor about your experiences?
yeah there was a case in america about this, v.controverisal.
a woman had sex with a man but he did not want it because he was a mormon or something and didnt believe in sex before marridge. like all cases in america-it ended up she had to pay him compensation but she wasnt sent to prison.
and sorry for being ignorant but what's a neurosis? ohhhhhh is it neurotic?! ahhh right.
and I can and will get over it, it's been a year and I've told some of my friends and they are now so protective of me. I can talk to them any time of the day and I have other friends who don't have exams and shit so I can talk to them too if i want to.
Despit the fact that you have friends to talk to (which is good for sure) they are not professional counsellors who know what types of psychological problems can develop out of such a trauma. i would again strongly urge you to seek some professional counselling and work through the issues this attack has implanted deep in your mind. you might be shocked to realise that you arent evn necessarily consciously aware of how deep the trauma can go.
Will keep you posted.:)