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I feel like I don't have the right to feel depressed

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
I'm really awesome at bottling up my emotions so all I get in the end is anger - the reason I do this is either because I don't feel in a safe environment to express myself or can't really process what I'm feeling properly other than just knowing I'm not feeling right.

My life is chaotic at the best of times and terrifying at the worst, nothing ever stays the same and I don't really get much support from those actually close to me cos 9/10 they have their own shit to deal with, and it's very difficult to get constructive advice from people like that sometimes.

Right now, I've just moved into a new house in a new area with my best friend and my mother. Both of them have fairly serious physical health concerns, and other stuff that I feel is much bigger to deal with than me dealing with my past and my little neuroses and just random pains. Even considering all that's been going on for me with housing situation/benefits/health I've tried to remain strong and at least a little up beat. But now it's getting towards sorted I feel like a void has opened up again and that I'm full of emotions I can't explain. I don't feel like I have the time/energy/space/brain capacity/or the right to feel depressed right now. So I'm pushing it all down and I'm getting narked off by everything as a result and snapping at people all the time. I've never been this ill-tempered before!

I'm on a waiting list for therapy, but it's 3 months + and I'm already 2 months along that, but I'm worried that it's just not going to work (my experiences with NHS & mental health treatment have been poor to say the least). I've been seen by a student councillor just to tide me over but I really want to up the number of appointments I have to twice weekly.

I don't really know what I do, I was meant to have been referred back to the CPN but I haven't been, (which is where i think my referral to the pain management clinic is also at), I feel like I'm just burdening people with my shit, and I can't explain it very well either.

Any ideas?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The therapy might not work if you carry on as you have. I dont mean that in any mean or nasty way, but more so along the lines of if you try to ignore or push away the issues, are you going to be able to fully embrace the benefits that therapy may provide.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah you're right, but I don't know what else to do order to keep it together enough to not totally lose it...

    Maybe I'm just making mountains out of molehills and things aren't as bad as I'm making out...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Have a watch of this, did it put a smile on your face?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SgnlVV3Ko
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hi Miss Riot :wave:,

    It sounds like there is a lot going on for you at the moment and you said in the post before that you may be making a moutain out of a molehill, this is not the case and always feel that you can post on The Site and if you feel that you just want to get things of your chest there will always be someone here to listen.

    You say that you've seen a student councillor but you wish see to them more often, could you speak to the college/uni service to see if this is possible?

    As you've just recently moved into a new house and new area things can be seeming a little unsettled, as with any big change it can take a while to get used to.

    It may be an idea to get in contact with your GP to chase up your outstanding referrals (for CPN and pain management) to get an idea of timescales for appointments.

    I hope this has helped and things start to feel better for you soon, please keep posting and let us know how you're doing.

    Take Care.

    B:thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm chasing the referrals up now, waiting for the docs to get back to me.

    I've got a lot of pressure being piled on me right now, mainly from those close to me, I'm seeing a councillor tomorrow so I'm going to talk to her about it.

    I've realised I get virtually no time to myself, there always other people in my space (I've had to share my room with my best friend for the past week, cos her new room isn't sorted yet - but she's now gone for 2 weeks to sort out loose ends at her old place).

    The pain is making me really grumpy, and I don't feel like I'm getting any proper relief.

    And I'm going to stop now cos I feel like I'm just moaning and taking up precious web space people with bigger issues than mine could be using.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I can relate to some of the feelings you've mentioned especially feeling like you don't have the right to feel depressed. But really, it's something that's beyond our control and it might feel like bad timing especially as you mentioned other people around you are going through tough times themselves. Allowing yourself to talk to one of these people won't necessarily mean that you're going to be a huge burden. I don't want to sound like some sort of do-gooder but I'd prefer it if my friends talked to me rather than suffered in silence. Everyone is always having their own crisis so don't let this stop you from opening up. Sometimes listening and trying to help with someone else's problem helps me take my mind off of my own stuff anyway. Don't underestimate the support friends and family can give you. Let them help you.

    Today I'm going to attempt to talk to some of my uni friends about stuff I've been going through. I'm not going to tell them everything and I know I am going to hold stuff back but that's okay because that's all I feel comfortable with. Maybe you could test the waters by doing that?

    I'm pretty ignorent about mental health services but I know how frustrating the waiting list is to see a therapist. You've already recognised that the 1x a week session with the counseller at uni isn't enough, maybe let them know? They might be restricted as to how many sessions they can actually offer but they have a duty to point you towards a service that may be helpful to you.

    Please keep posting though because it's what this website is for. There's no such thing as taking up too much web space at all. Hugs from afar. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thanks Clem...

    I'm going to call a couple of friends tonight and see if they have the time to talk. I really could do with some perspective on everything.

    The counsellor that I see at college is a trainee counsellor and I've just been told she's taken on a lot more clients, but I'll still see if she has got sometime. Theres not much else I can do if she's not available because the college counsellor can't see me when I'm available, and locally theres no free services that aren't religious.

    I called the doc and they have put in a call to the CPN, and I'm seeing my support worker next tuesday so maybe something might happen. But the doc didn't do anything about the pain management clinic, so I'm hoping that might now come through but I'm not holding my breath!

    I'm feeling like I've put a lot of people off being friends (or more) with me because I feel like I'm come across as a bit fucked up...maybe I'm just thinking a but too much
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Congrats on the practical steps you've taken :)

    Taking a different angle, are there any charities local to you that deal with issues related to your depression/therapy needs? They may be able to offer alternate support services, whether that's counselling or the opportunity for you to get involved in group therapy work etc. May not suit you, of course, but it's a route to explore.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm already in touch with rethink - thats who I have a support worker from. Theres no Mind here, and the only other charities I''ve been able to track down I don't fall into their remit. I'm either too old, or not christian or not at risk of offending etc.

    There might be some groups (not therapy more support) that I can go to might I'm waiting to hear about them, but when I had my assessment with psychology they said that they wouldn't recommend group therapy right now because of my anxiety - which is really annoying because theres no waiting list for group therapy where as theres really long waiting list for individual therapy.

    :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Okies - and I don't mean to question the recommendations of a professional as I'm sure their reasoning is sound- but how do you feel about the potential of group therapy? Do you feel like it would help or hinder your anxiety? I've had a bit of a google and there looks to be some useful indicators there. Obviously if you don't feel like it would help, then I wouldn't suggest that you should go for it, but if you're only refraining because the psych assessment said so, I'd reconsider.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The therapy groups were referral only so I can't access them now. I would have liked to have at least given it a go, I think it might have been helpful in some ways...

    I'm going to try and go to the support groups especially considering that I can get picked up and brought back.

    I'm trying to open up, but I just feel so bloody confused!! I can't actually put what I feel into words right now!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Good- from the sounds of it, you feel positive about the action of group support. So I think as long as you are aware of yourself and your limitations, you should manage okay with it.

    One of the exercises I did when we were doing group therapy for bereavement was a writing one. The facilitator just gave us lots of paper and a pen, and just told us to write. Put the pen to paper and write down whatever came to mind. Some people ended up writing poems, whereas mine was literally just a brain dump of words and memories related to my Dad. I don't know if that would help you - just putting your pen to paper and writing whatever, you sort of end up disconnecting from what is actually being written, and then when you read it back over it may help you articulate things?

    And I personally think "I just feel so bloody confused" is a perfectly valid expression of what you're feeling.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thank you! I just wish other people around me would!

    I'm being left on my own for 2 weeks which is often a time I go downhill and it also means I need to get myself to college & back, which is bit of a big step for me and not one I feel very ready for! I feel so stupid because I used to travel around Europe on my own and now I'm struggling with going on 1 round trip bus journey. I feel so pathetic!

    Talked to councillor and no can do with the second session a week and she's planning on seeing me for another 4 sessions :( I just hope that the NHS sort something out in that time.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Dr wants to see me on Friday before he refers me to the pain management clinic.

    I think I've just realised I'm very lonely and quite a spiteful person (I looked back at some texts and they were uncalled for). No wonder people don't really want to be around me. I probably do push people away though...

    Urgh just so much shit going on!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Realisations like this are good - they're all steps towards improving things. If those texts were uncalled for, do you know why, in that moment, you sent them? Working that out could help you prevent it happening again.

    How is your relationship with this doctor? Is he likely to listen and help?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I sent them because that's exactly how I felt at that time and because I'm rash.

    My dr is very forgetful but great, he can handle my sense of humour (like me calling the DWP nazis and when I had a virus he said he thought it was worth treating and I said I bloody well hope so otherwise what the hell am I doing here).

    I did something stupid today - I met up with my ex for coffee after not speaking to him for 3 months (we've been apart for 6). It was good to have a catch up and see that he's doing well but it made me miss him more - especially after he told me about his new girlfriend does all the things I wish I could do.

    I've spoken to a couple of friends but I just want to sit at home and cry. It hurts so much
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