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What to do after breaking up a friendship?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
K, I didn't really want to do this. Like, I hoped I would be able to cope with it but I'm really really not. Every time I think about it I want to break down in tears (not at all practical).

Anyway, there's a guy I know who I was very good friends with for a very long time. I almost lost my virginity to him and to this day I wish I had. Anyway, I was in love with him. Was...am...kind of both. I don't really know anymore. Either way I considered him one of my best friends and thought I always would as he's been there through a whole lot of shit that not many of my other good friends have been.

For the past couple of years he's been a bit...shit. Like, not making any effort to speak to me or visit me and when I went to see him a few months ago he left me waiting at Bristol station for an hour and a half before I even got through to him, and then I spent the weekend in the company of loads of people I didn't know doing none of the things I was told we'd be doing. Anyway. The point is that I got a bit fed up after the "visit" he said he would give me ended up being him popping in for an hour on his way to somewhere else with his girlfriend which was only because I happened to be dogsitting at home. Great stuff. So I emailed him and basically said I didn't think we should be friends anymore unless he was prepared to make an effort. Turns out he wasn't. Something about us having nothing in common and not being able to make conversation with me anymore (although I don't even remember the last time he tried). I dunno, I didn't agree but hell. So we aren't friends anymore. He even removed me straight away from Facebook, and even as someone who couldn't care less about that site that crushed me. I am now completely regretting the email I sent and wishing I could take it all back. Especially right now because I'm having a bit of a crisis and insanerage. Er...anyway.

Now what? I had to text him to ask him to return a book that I lent him about 3 years ago and he never returned, and he's bought me a new one because he lost it. But all I want to do right now is email him and say I MADE A MISTAKE PLEASE LETS BE FRIENDS AGAIN :(.

Argh. I don't really know what advice I'm after. I'm so so sad right now it's unreal. Blah. Sorry for length. I needed to get it out really.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sounds like he doesn't want to be friends with you. Can't really force something like that upon someone. Move on.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That's the thing though, see, he's behaving exactly the same as before. I'm not pushing anything. If he doesn't want to be friends then that's fair enough. I'm just finding it hard because I've always thought of him as one of my best friends.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It sounds like a really hard position to be in. But at the same time is it not better than you having to make an effort and him not and then you feeling crappy about it? At least this way you know where you both stand?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you want to be friends with him again then tell him. But considering he's been so shit, you need to think if that really is what you do want.

    I think it's hard because you used to be close and he's obviously been through a lot with you so I guess having him as a friend maybe makes you feel more secure. And as well as that, you're used to having him as a friend - going from that to nothing is going to be a shock.

    But I think he's shown his true colours.

    I have friends that I wish made more effort but when I tell them that they'll agree and actually make more effort. They wouldn't just say we had nothing in common and they wouldn't delete me from facebook right away like he did.

    If you get in touch and tell him you want to be friends again and he agrees, then what? Do you really think he'll start making more of an effort? Or will he just let you down again? From what you've said, unless he's got some really good reason why he's acting like he is I can't really see him changing.

    But on the other hand if you do really, really want to try and be friends again and think there is a possibility that could happen - maybe if you try and spend some time together - then I would say try it. What have you got to loose?

    I guess either way you could see if he wants to meet up for a chat, just to go through some things so you can both work out once and for all if there is a friendship there or not.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Franki wrote: »
    That's the thing though, see, he's behaving exactly the same as before. I'm not pushing anything. If he doesn't want to be friends then that's fair enough. I'm just finding it hard because I've always thought of him as one of my best friends.

    things change. 2 of my best friends (and I mean from age 4 to age 15) and me are now completely separated people who hardly have contact. The fact that he unfriended you so quick on fb (which i find weird in it's own. In my opinion unfriending someone on facebook is more to make a "statement" if you understand what I mean). I think he's really not wanting this anymore and he is bluntly but not too unfriendly trying to make you understand that, but that's just my 2c.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    what you love about him is a fantasy, maybe based on what he used to be like, or maybe based on what you want him to be like but theres obviously some reason he doesnt care anymore. possibly his girlfriend, but could be anything.

    I really dont think there is anything you can do, and youre just gonna have to grieve the friendship as it pretty much sounds like its over.
    Not easy though :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you really beleive that sending him that email *was* a mistake then tell him! i'd probably react in the same way as him to be honest if one of my good mates emailed me saying 'make more effort with me or we're no longer friends' as thats what it sounds like you effectively did. If the same friend were to contact me again afterwards however saying that they made a big mistake i'd still forgive them.
    As SCC said it does sound a bit like you just like the old version of him though, as in the way he/you used to be. People get older and grow apart its just how things go sometimes, so past feelings about him aside, do you really want him as a friend again?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm gonna go all Psych 101 on your ass, but I reckon the reason you feel like this is because you are still in love with him, or in love with the idea of him, or something. After all, with most friends, when they start being shit friends and we come to realise they take more than they give and don't care all that much about the friendship, we can let go quite easily. We stop calling and stop making an effort, and it's the obvious and natural thing to do, because friendships should be reciprocal and about give and take. If they're not, we realise they're not worth our efforts.

    But it's much harder to be ruthless about it when you have loved the person. This is partly because so much of ourselves and our self-worth is bound up in who we love. We don't want to believe that we could have wasted our love and affection on someone who has ultimately shown themselves to be unworthy of it, because that would be a tragedy and imply a lack of judgment on our part. So then I think we keep lying to ourselves, making excuses for the person, telling ourselves maybe they do love me as much as I do after all, and forgiving them and letting them back in every time they let us down.

    This is what I did when I was in a similar situation. If he had just been a friend and nothing more, I wouldn't have cared so much when he let me down, and wouldn't have taken it so personally. But because I loved him, I kept forgiving him and letting him disappoint me time and again, because it was too painful to cut him out, which is what I would do with anyone else.

    Be brave and hang on in there, it will get easier and in time you will miss him less.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I haven't anything useful really to add to the thread, but I just wanted to thank Jamelia for this post as it's really poignant.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh thanks! :blush:

    I really relate to Franki's post - I have been in a situation so similar, that it really touched me.

    I had a friend to whom I really was just a friend. But I loved him to pieces, so that every time he let me down or disappointed me or acted inconsiderately, it was like a flesh wound. Whereas from anyone else, I would have just thought "fuck it, he's a shit friend, I'm not wasting my time on him".

    But I would get angry and hurt and let down, because I realised that he couldn't possibly feel for me anything like what I felt for him. Then I would do as Franki has done, and try to cut him out, and tell him we shouldn't be friends any more, which would compound the hurt as he wasn't that bothered. But then the agony of being without him got too much, and I would change my mind, and things would resume as they did before. It was an emotional rollercoaster for about two years, and it was all caused by my unrequited love. Probably the things he did weren't so terrible, if you were just mates. But because I loved him, and it was becoming clear he didn't love me, it seemed awful.

    I think the best bet is to stick to your decision though. It's the only way off the emotional rollercoaster. Plus, once you decide how you want things to be, and take control of the situation, you feel so much better just for having some power back, and not being a slave to him and his fleeting and sporadic desires to spend time with you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I can relate to your reply and explanation, although i'm in a different situation to yours and franki's. The advice is also useful for people trying to get out of/coming out of bad relationships where you loved the guy, and at times he was nice, but on the whole he didn't act very nice!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thanks Jamelia :) and everyone else. Suzy you are right, it is definitely more the idea of him these days as I've barely really had a proper conversation with him for about two years.

    Jamelia - I know that a lot of it is how I used to, and yeh maybe still do, feel about him. I think it's also because I'm not very happy at the moment and I don't want to have to burden Rich all the time. Eh.

    Rich has said to give it a week and see if I still think I was wrong. I think that's a good idea. Still...eh.
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