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Northern Ireland question
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I'm going to be visiting Belfast soon and I never thought I'd have a problem as I thought the troubles were in the past but this has made me think about things.
This is really aimed at N Ireland TheSite users - I've been told that if there is any prejudice against Brits from people in the street then it's more likely to be aimed at English people. That's all very well however I'm Welsh. I confess my ignorance to all this but as I understand it (and I probably don't) anyone with a problem with the British in N Ireland are less likely to be bothered by a Taff.
A few years ago a mate of mine was in a pub in Lisburn and got chatting to some regulars, they were quietly anti-British. My mate (who's also Welsh) said "so why don't you have a problem with me?" to which one of them answered "You're not British, you're Welsh".
Norn Iron residents, your thoughts please....
This is really aimed at N Ireland TheSite users - I've been told that if there is any prejudice against Brits from people in the street then it's more likely to be aimed at English people. That's all very well however I'm Welsh. I confess my ignorance to all this but as I understand it (and I probably don't) anyone with a problem with the British in N Ireland are less likely to be bothered by a Taff.
A few years ago a mate of mine was in a pub in Lisburn and got chatting to some regulars, they were quietly anti-British. My mate (who's also Welsh) said "so why don't you have a problem with me?" to which one of them answered "You're not British, you're Welsh".
Norn Iron residents, your thoughts please....
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when you start going into bars outside of the city centre the story could change a little .. personally i wouldnt sit in 95% of the bars outside of the city centre, theres a fair chance you would get a few funny looks for being a stranger nevermind where you're from .. a lot of that probably being linked back to the way things were in the past
its inevitable that some people will have anti-british feelings, probably akin to the reception you would have got in bars in england with a belfast accent 20 years ago! aslong as you arent in the rougher bars that arent more central, there wouldnt be any problem
there would be more of an anti english feeling than anythin tho.. ie braveheart type thing if ya get where im comin from, i think these types of people would see scottish and welsh being on the same side in regards to the past
previously it might have been more of an issue, but in this day and age i wouldnt think so. id bring an english friend to my local before id bring a protestant friend!
Everyone has a different perspective of life so to try and genearlise the reactions of people in NI is rather pathetic of you mr quagmire.
Seriously, I wish you well in your quest for a personality.
I'm going on what I've been told by people I know. You know, trying to research the matter before I go, common decency and all, not that you'd have much experience of it.
Difference being there isn't a recent history of fatal anti-English feeling in France.....
I often wonder though...if there are any English people who fear being beaten up by us Scots.
Ideally I'd like to visit Shankhill Road just to experience the history of the place for myself. On another forum someone suggested that if I do then I should wear my Welsh rugby top and have a small Welsh flag on my car registration plate but I've got the feeling he was winding me up...
what history are you expecting to find on the shankill mate? its just a road with many a union jack and the odd shabby mural!
you'll be fine mate, although no gurantees up the shankill! lol
I know but it represents a significant part of UK history, regardless of the politics involved I'd like to pay my respects and witness it for myself.
So do you reckon a Welsh flag sticker on the back of my car would be ok or not neccessary?
Course its not neccessary! You're just attracting unwanted attention to yourself. Its not like you're going into a war zone and need to tell the friendly fighter jets that you're a friendly
^^ Listen to this guy, hes from Nottingham.
Nottingham makes Belfast look like Little House on the Prairie
ditch the sticker, tricolour on the back window and celtic top on, ill get the bets on the go see how long ya last
but no, i honestly wouldnt worry, the shankill road itself is a very busy road during the day i doubt anyone would notice, although id shy away from the estates! :thumb:
Haha that's where I'm from. Not much to do there mate except shop.
As already said, it's more an anti-English sentiment than anything else, I couldn't give two fucks who you are or where you're from personally but some people do. Just keep yourself to yourself and don't say anything political, you'll be sweet.
Fuck off you hippy cunt!
And what does it say at revelation chapter fourteen verse twelve that I can't be arsed blowing dust of the bookshelves to find out for myself then?
Says the Welsh are banned from everywhere!
:razz:
I've just come back from a visit to NI, was in Banbridge last night which was scary especially as I remember being over there when the Moira and Omagh bombings happened and it was... scary, frankly.
That said, I've never had any problems in Northern Ireland (though my mum's from Belfast so I've always been flanked by relatives when I've been over) except for a drive-by turniping in Coleraine. Don't think that was anything to do with being English though, more to do with the culprits being dafties/drunk/both
Are you over there on a work-related thing? My cousins live in Lisburn and it's pretty nice these days... well, it's all relative. Though where they live it stinks of burning animals /off topic. If you want to go somewhere nice in Belfast that's central then I suggest climbing a "mountain" :thumb: or on the flying fox in Lady Dixon park. Good times!
I went there once before, I drove from the South and stopped off at your McDonalds, by some sort of shopping estate?
Yeah I went to Lisburn before, bought a CD/MP3 player for my car from Halfords there
Yes it's kind-of work related and I've been before but in peaceful times. I still decided up 'up' my Welsh accent a bit just in case
It is quite similar to the advice you appear to have been espousing here recently, Morrocan Roll.
Namely, that you are more likely to do well by adapting your behaviour to the 10 commandment et al modality than listening to,worshipping or following the directions of snake oil puppets such as Gordy, Barack and company who claim to have your best interests at heart.
Those supposed knights in shining armour may well turn out to be the horsemen of the apocalypse, the first of which was deception.