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private secret police spying on us it seems now
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1138755/Secret-police-unit-set-spy-British-domestic-extremists.html?ITO=1490
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/manchester/2009/02/421679.html
if none of you are aware the ACPO (http://www.acpo.police.uk/about.html) are a private organisation.... who have a good record of blatant lying
very iffy stuff :no:
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/manchester/2009/02/421679.html
Yes, this is the news, first leaked by the Mail on Sunday, that bored plod at the Association of Chief Police Officers have started up a new super secret group to investigate any groups which have anything nasty to say about capital and the state. ACPO is the private company that masterminds the nutkins at NECTU, last seen leaking reports to the Observer that pretended environmentalists were dangerous terrorists.
if none of you are aware the ACPO (http://www.acpo.police.uk/about.html) are a private organisation.... who have a good record of blatant lying
very iffy stuff :no:
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All I have to do now is wait for some Labour Party apparatnik to talk at me about how I'm wrong to believe that the UK is one of the most spied upon nation on the planet. I can hardly wait!
Security issues should never be handled by private companies. Ever.
Especially since the government's definition of "extremist" is rather different to that the rest of us hold. Always has been, as many MPs themselves who used to be spied on by their own secret services can testify.
using the MET headquarters
now only to invoke the freemasons somewhere
Is there no help for the widow's son ?
Never trust stories from Indymedia or the DailyMail. They are both self-rightous, often full of crap and written by opinionated amateurs.
This strangely leaves them independent of the police and any form of external scrutiny normally reserved for public bodies...
They also are the body who have pushed for more draconion laws whether you agree or not with them
Police forces are corporations.
link?
The organisation may be private, but all the members are cops, who individually are accountable.
the way people are wittering you'd think it was FTSE250
immune to FOI requests and outside of parliamentary and judicial oversight.... that's why
surely this is the job of MI5 anyway
Giving it independence from Ministerial intervention (which i suspect is why they're doing it.
Different question, and one I'd agree with (though probably more Special Branch)
not to quote a film but who watches the watchmen....
domestic terroism is mi5 and speciasl branch was more organised crime/drugs/theives i swear
My guess is that you are well aware that FTSE250 is but a very minor part of the corporate world.
Evidence suggests to me that the limited liability aspect of incorporation is the most useful (and, dare I say, criminal).
Well in this case Companies House. Bear in mind all this new group actually does is pass information (though why SB can't do that themselves I can't answer). It can't conduct arrests or interrogations or plant bugs; its basically admin.
Special Branch is 'political', they work closely with MI5, but five has no powers of arrest for example, so would sue SB. However as a rough division of labour generally MI5 would deal more with strategic assets, SB would deal with the minor nuisances
ETA to expand
Special Branch was originally formed in the late 19th century to "deal with" Irish Nationalists. Today they would be labelled terrorists.
That sounds like MI5/Special Branch language.
They were labelled terrorists then...
Yes, we all use English...
In the way that Orwellian Doublespeak is English.
There are derivatives in many fields. Legalese in the legal world is a language of its own, and I am sure you are aware of military language such as "collateral damage" and "friendly fire". Currently topical the politicians are using such gems as "quantitative easing"and "monetizing the debt”.
But I digress. While we are discussing linguistic obsfucation, there are fewer watching the watchers . . .
Perhaps they were (and maybe deservedly so) but the definition is more of the linguistic fog from above.
It is worth bearing in mind that if you do decide to watch the watchers, you too could be deemed a terrorist under the new Counter Terrorism Act 2008.
Yes but this also keeps it out of reach of the Freedom of Information act as well I believe...
My concern is that if they are extending their remit to include non-violent protest and direct action groups, this is undermining a core part of British democracy, as many of the rights and freedoms we enjoy have been won and defended by the citizenry in this fashion.