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Macavity: Now he thinks he's Churchill!

The recession gets ever more ludicrous. We have the spectacle of the Tories proposing tax cuts and slashing public spending in vital areas. We've got Labour saying that we have to get out of a recession caused by outrageous levels of debt by getting into even more debt - do these retards really not see the irony of this? Now, we've got Crash Gordon - he who believes that he has "saved the world" - coming out with a load of bullshit about the recession being a test of the nation's character. Where are the men in white coats when you need them? A few weeks ago, he thought he was a superhero, now he thinks he's Winston Churchill;

"The recession is a test of character the British people must pass, Gordon Brown is set to say. In next week's New Year message, the prime minister is expected to urge the public to 'display the same spirit' as their predecessors did in World War II. He will also describe US president-elect Barack Obama as a 'catalyst' for tackling global issues. And Mr Brown will demand that the public work together in an effort to build a 'better tomorrow'."

This is really quite amazing coming from a man who's bottled or fucked up pretty much every major decision in his political life. We should display a test of character? We certainly saw your true character when you bottled that General Election - and we weren't impressed by what we saw. We see your true character when we look at your Cabinet - one with Harriet Harperson, Jacqui "Liar" Smith and Ed Cunt in it.

Let's remind ourselves how all this started. The problem DID start in America, but Macavity didn't exactly do much in his own backyard to protect the UK as Chancellor. We had US banks that were awash with money [following massive interest rate cuts after 9/11] who wanted to give mortgages to the world and his cat. This spread to the UK, where our banks started lending far too much money to stupid morons who listen to the likes Kirstie Allsopp and that bald twat on Channel 4 who told everyone to buy second houses in the country, on the grounds it would make them a shitload of cash. Who was the Chancellor who didn't say a word when he saw house prices going up to ridiculously high and unsustainable levels? Who was the Chancellor who failed to save money for the rainy days we face now? It don't take a lot of working out, Gordon.

In any case, what in the name of all that's holy is the British character? One where women have loads of kids by several different fathers, perhaps? One where people go out every weekend to get so pissed they can't remember anything the next day? And coming from a man who bends over backwards to hide his Scottish background, (except when it suits him) it's all a bit rich.

Coming up in next week's penultimate episode of New Labour: We've F**ked Up The Country, Alistair Darling has to deny rumours that UK plc is about to go into administration.

Over to you...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote: »
    The recession gets ever more ludicrous. We have the spectacle of the Tories proposing tax cuts and slashing public spending in vital areas. We've got Labour saying that we have to get out of a recession caused by outrageous levels of debt by getting into even more debt - do these retards really not see the irony of this? Now, we've got Crash Gordon - he who believes that he has "saved the world" - coming out with a load of bullshit about the recession being a test of the nation's character. Where are the men in white coats when you need them? A few weeks ago, he thought he was a superhero, now he thinks he's Winston Churchill;

    "The recession is a test of character the British people must pass, Gordon Brown is set to say. In next week's New Year message, the prime minister is expected to urge the public to 'display the same spirit' as their predecessors did in World War II. He will also describe US president-elect Barack Obama as a 'catalyst' for tackling global issues. And Mr Brown will demand that the public work together in an effort to build a 'better tomorrow'."

    This is really quite amazing coming from a man who's bottled or fucked up pretty much every major decision in his political life. We should display a test of character? We certainly saw your true character when you bottled that General Election - and we weren't impressed by what we saw. We see your true character when we look at your Cabinet - one with Harriet Harperson, Jacqui "Liar" Smith and Ed Cunt in it.

    Let's remind ourselves how all this started. The problem DID start in America, but Macavity didn't exactly do much in his own backyard to protect the UK as Chancellor. We had US banks that were awash with money [following massive interest rate cuts after 9/11] who wanted to give mortgages to the world and his cat. This spread to the UK, where our banks started lending far too much money to stupid morons who listen to the likes Kirstie Allsopp and that bald twat on Channel 4 who told everyone to buy second houses in the country, on the grounds it would make them a shitload of cash. Who was the Chancellor who didn't say a word when he saw house prices going up to ridiculously high and unsustainable levels? Who was the Chancellor who failed to save money for the rainy days we face now? It don't take a lot of working out, Gordon.

    In any case, what in the name of all that's holy is the British character? One where women have loads of kids by several different fathers, perhaps? One where people go out every weekend to get so pissed they can't remember anything the next day? And coming from a man who bends over backwards to hide his Scottish background, (except when it suits him) it's all a bit rich.

    Coming up in next week's penultimate episode of New Labour: We've F**ked Up The Country, Alistair Darling has to deny rumours that UK plc is about to go into administration.

    Over to you...

    Fact: by far, the IMMENSE share of the world's and Britain's current financial woes have been caused by the financial world and a number of greedy, inept and corrupt financial institutions and individuals. Not by Gordon Brown or indeed most other governments.

    It cannot be long now before you accuse Brown of having kidnapped Madeleine McCann... :rolleyes:
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    Aladdin wrote: »
    Fact: by far, the IMMENSE share of the world's and Britain's current financial woes have been caused by the financial world and a number of greedy, inept and corrupt financial institutions and individuals. Not by Gordon Brown or indeed most other governments.

    It cannot be long now before you accuse Brown of having kidnapped Madeleine McCann... :rolleyes:

    Have to agree here. SG - you need to address your rage issues towards Gordon Brown. You're starting to sound like either of two things:

    1. A broken record.
    2. A tabloid.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Possibly the recession isn't Brown's fault, but selling the Gold Reserves at a knockdown price, fucking up the pension market and not using a decade of unprecedent growth to make inroads into the public sector borrowing is. If he'd managed the UK's economy better we'd be better placed both to ride out the recession and to recover when it's over...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1547173/Brown's-pension-grab-secret-is-revealed.html

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article1655001.ece
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    g_angel wrote: »
    Have to agree here. SG - you need to address your rage issues towards Gordon Brown. You're starting to sound like either of two things:

    1. A broken record.
    2. A tabloid.

    a broken record that was given away for free by the daily mail
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Leave him alone Star, he's getting on with the job, doing what's best for Britain, making those hard decisions and so on...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Why do you call him McCavity? And he hasn't said he thinks he's Churchill has he?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Gordon Brown is the political equivalent of a magpie. He just nicks ideas and phrases that other politicians (who are infinitely more popular than this busted flush) are using.
    Runnymede wrote: »
    Leave him alone Star, he's getting on with the job, doing what's best for Britain, making those hard decisions and so on...
    "I'm getting on with the job of using the same phrases over and over again, like Mandy told me to, talking endlessly about helping with hard-working familes and dealing with problems which began in America. Or was it helping with hard-working problems and dealing with families which began in America? I forget. Anyway, I saved the world..."

    As for claims that I'm sounding similar to a certain right-wing daily, they clearly haven't read the Daily Mail recently. Increasingly, I'm finding them much more sycophantic and lazy. Where they hounded Blair, they tend to leave Macavity alone. Might be something to do with Paul Dacre being a close friend of our PM...
    Renzo wrote: »
    Why do you call him Macavity? And he hasn't said he thinks he's Churchill has he?
    I thought you did Politics at university, Renzo? I wonder what they taught you over that three years. Back in 2006, a civil servant who was giving evidence to a House of Commons committee referred to Brown as a "Macavity-style character", a reference to Macavity the Cat, a character who constantly disappears whenever there is trouble. I happen to think that name suits his character perfectly, and that's why I constantly call him by that name.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Runnymede wrote: »
    Leave him alone Star, he's getting on with the job, doing what's best for Britain, making those hard decisions and so on...
    Nobody is above criticism- when it's due. However SG's dislike of Brown has caused him to blame him for a lot of things over the last few months, some of which were rather unwarranted.

    Of course Brown has made mistakes over the years- all governments do. But it remains the case that by large the blame the current situation must lie with the financial world.

    Naturally it is a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situation for Brown. Had he, for instance, not recently spent many billions saving a number of companies and industries from collapse, the very people who now complain about him recklessly getting us into more debt would be crying foul about the government sitting back and letting major banks and industries disappear without trying to help.

    It made me laugh the other day when SG used the comments of a rather deluded German minister to attack Brown. As if the German economy was doing well...
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    stargalaxy wrote: »
    Gordon Brown is the political equivalent of a magpie. He just nicks ideas and phrases that other politicians (who are infinitely more popular than this busted flush) are using. "I'm getting on with the job of using the same phrases over and over again, like Mandy told me to, talking endlessly about helping with hard-working familes and dealing with problems which began in America. Or was it helping with hard-working problems and dealing with families which began in America? I forget. Anyway, I saved the world..."

    As for claims that I'm sounding similar to a certain right-wing daily, they clearly haven't read the Daily Mail recently. Increasingly, I'm finding them much more sycophantic and lazy. Where they hounded Blair, they tend to leave Macavity alone. Might be something to do with Paul Dacre being a close friend of our PM... I thought you did Politics at university, Renzo? I wonder what they taught you over that three years. Back in 2006, a civil servant who was giving evidence to a House of Commons committee referred to Brown as a "Macavity-style character", a reference to Macavity the Cat, a character who constantly disappears whenever there is trouble. I happen to think that name suits his character perfectly, and that's why I constantly call him by that name.

    I did do Politics yes but that didn't involve having to learn 'jokes' stated in the House of Commons.

    And I hardly think Brown has disappeared. Is he not in the news every single day?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote: »
    Of course Brown has made mistakes over the years- all governments do. But it remains the case that by large the blame the current situation must lie with the financial world.

    It made me laugh the other day when SG used the comments of a rather deluded German minister to attack Brown. As if the German economy was doing well...
    Don't try to pretend that Brown has nothing to do with any of this. He was the one at the Treasury for 10 years whilst much of this went on. I'm not seriously saying he's to blame for everything that's gone wrong - but his total refusal to admit to even any mistakes whatsoever is utterly ridiculous. A bit of humility wouldn't go amiss every now and then from him.

    Secondly, I think the bail-out of the banks was a necessary evil. I don't exactly like the sight of reckless banks receiving taxpayers money, but we had no choice. If we hadn't done it, the economy would have been decimated. I have an awful suspicion that the bail-out will have to be increased again during 2009, and I would reluctantly support such action.

    Thirdly, name me one Western economy which is doing well at the moment...
    Renzo wrote: »
    And I hardly think Brown has disappeared. Is he not in the news every single day?
    It's more of a reference to his political career. Whenever there was bad news to be announced at the Treasury, Gordon had an awful tendency to disappear and let other ministers take the flak.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Gold will be virtually worthless by summer.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Gold will be virtually worthless by summer.

    Good time to buy then? ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote: »
    Don't try to pretend that Brown has nothing to do with any of this. He was the one at the Treasury for 10 years whilst much of this went on.
    He cannot interfere in the daily business of financial institutions, as you surely must know. Even if he had known the irresponsible ways banks were behaving. And if he had done something about it, you'd be crying 'This is unnaceptable State intervention!' and 'We're becoming a socialist State!' on the top of your voice.
    Thirdly, name me one Western economy which is doing well at the moment...
    Which further validates my point. The meltdown wasn't the fault of any government, but of the financial world. Unless you are suggesting every government in the West is as calamitous as you believe the British government to be.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote: »
    He cannot interfere in the daily business of financial institutions, as you surely must know. Even if he had known the irresponsible ways banks were behaving. And if he had done something about it, you'd be crying 'This is unnaceptable State intervention!' and 'We're becoming a socialist State!' on the top of your voice.
    Never said he had to do that. He could have stated he was worried about excessive lending practices from the banks. This would have created a wave of media scrutiny and negative publicity - two things that banks absolutely hate. He could have put money aside instead of wasting it on unreformed public services to protect us from the effects of a downturn. For 10 years, he was in a position where he could have spoken out and made a difference. He blew it, and the UK is now one of the worst placed countries in the world to deal with the recession. Not my words, but that of the International Monetary Fund. I have a dreadful suspicion that if we continue down Macavity's route of mortgaging out the UK's future, we're gonna be going cap in hand to them once again.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Gold will be virtually worthless by summer.

    Compared to what ?

    Or do you mean : worth less than it is now, as measured in fiatcurrency ?
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