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Brown's tribute to soldiers
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He said the men "died in the front line of terror" and "would never be forgotten" for what they had achieved on behalf of Britain.
TBH reading that and some of the other soundbites out of him it sends a shiver down my spine like from the first world war when all the war correspondents downplayed the horror of the reality and just said it was all very honourable.
Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, anyone?
Don't know why it only just struck me this morning though reading the news. What are we fighting for? A war on terror?
Complete nonsense. I'm surprised he has the gall to come out and make out like these people who lost their lives was justified for some 'greater good' or higher cause. Dress them up as patriots and heros and maybe nobody will ask just why the hell were they there getting killed in the first place.
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It is a war on terror in my world and I do not think there will ever be an end to it before my time is up. If I had a magic wand or a wish one of them would be to stop all the world being angry with each other and the wish would be for
PEACE AMONGST ALL MEN!
I wonder if he really does mean what he says? I would like to think so but I am not sure.
But these creeps are incapable of showing shame. Like Blair, Brown is everything that I despise in a politician - he repeatedly attempts to evade responsibility for blunders that happen on his watch, he fails to answer important and serious criticism aimed towards him and he only ever does something if it's in his interest to do so. Everything is about Gordon, not about the interests of the UK. Whilst he was Chancellor, he was constantly attempting to cut military funding. His public defences of the military are notable in their absence. Months before the Iraq conflict started, it was claimed that Gordon had severe doubts about the reasons for going in. Did he quit, like the late Robin Cook, and make a devastating resignation speech tearing the Government apart? Of course not. He stayed completely quiet.
And he wonders where his perception as Macavity style figure comes from? Strange how this all changed when he became Prime Minister. In November 2007, he said that he would do his "duty" for the military. This was, of course, just his way of trying to get a quick newspaper headline after being torn to shreds for bottling the general election. Funny how he never said anything about his duty to the military as Chancellor, isn't it? Gordon only cares about one thing - and that's Gordon.
But not once does he address why in the year 2008 we still feel the need to send young men to death needlessly. If he can't come to terms with the horror of war then he should not engage in one, frankly.
Besides, nothing that Gordon says would change anything about it. He was complicit in getting us into those two wars, along with several others. He was the Chancellor during a time when we had the most war-hungry Prime Minister in recent history. He has had countless opportunities over 11 years to speak out against what is happening - not once has he done so. That tells us everything we need to know.
Incidentally, it was announced recently that British troops are due to leave Iraq at the end of June 2009. Why was this announcement made via the press and not through Parliament? Let's remember that McBroon has form in this area - during the Tory Party conference in October 2007, he used a photo-opportunity in Baghdad to claim that troops were being taken out of Basra in Iraq. A claim which turned out to be the first of his many lies on the subject...
Yes, but there's a time and a place for putting forward complex arguments (which others would then argue against) and it's not when delivering a eulogy for the dead.
I can accept that sometimes people have to lay down their lives to protect their family, their friends, their comrades or their country. But I think we all need to regret every life lost, rather than paint it as something justified and patriotic.
Maybe it's just the way I read the quote on the BBC article.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7781240.stm (I forgot to post the link before)
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I can accept that sometimes people have to lay down their lives to protect their family, their friends, their comrades or their country. But I think we all need to regret every life lost, rather than paint it as something justified and patriotic.
Possibly because I've seen it, and I don't think it helps so those still alive for the PM to either say its a waste of time and we should leave or launch into a closely analysed explanation of geopolitics.
What's wanted, for those still remaining, is just simple platitudes - which doesn't mean they're not true - that those who died paid the cost for those sitting at home.
** It's always nice to proven right. Over at the Army Rumour Service, (or ARRSE, as it's more commonly known) our soldiers have been pouring scorn on "Jonah McGabe". Prime Mentalist indeed...
Teehee, I lurk on there too
Hardly a suprise that serving and ex-soldiers generally aren't big fans of a Labour PM...
You're very right. If anything (God forbid) should happen to my dad when he goes to Afghanistan, I don't want to hear that it was all in vain. I want people to recognise that what he did was brave and heroic. Whether that's right or not, I don't care. I would just want to hear it that way.
If, on the other hand, something happened to my dad because the government and the MOD got it wrong then they'll have it coming to them, believe you me.