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how far is too far?

my girlfriend is a big flirt she is a very outgoing and friendly person and enjoys talking and socialising with new people, which is one of the reasons i love her so much there is a flip side tho,

i dunno if i'm being unreasonable or not, she also enjoys getting attention from other guys (which i accept is totally natural and i dont mind her feeling flattered and stuff) what does annnoy me tho is when she actively seeks this attention, i feel that now she has a boyfriend she shouldnt flirt, tease other blokes so much, dont mind a bit of friendly flirting but when its what i see as flirting in a pulling manner then i get a bit narked off, its not a trust issue cos i know she would never cheat or do anything to hurt me, i just think she sometimes crosses the border from friendly flirting to the other sort, dont think she realises shes doing it we have spoken about it and she tells me i've nothing to worry about (which i know) but i just feel she's being a bit of a tease,

like there's this guy at work who supervises her, she has no feelings for him at all, (i know this cos he asked her out before me and she turned him down) but he flirts with her and gives her attention at work and stuff, and she flirts back (sometimes giving a little too much encouragement) but the thing that annoys me most is when she gets annoyed that hes not flirting with her or giving attention to someone else, its a bit of a kick in the teeth when your missus is sulking cos some guy at work is flirting with someone else,

now i dont wanna portray my girl as a cock tease cos she's not she never oversteps the line in a big way, its more a case of they get too friendly and she doesnt tell em to back off unless they touch her somewhere too personal or go in for a kiss, now am i being unreasonable in getting jealous of guys wanting my girlfriend? i'm flattered and it makes me proud but i think she just leaves it a little too long to say back off i have a boyfriend
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sounds perfectly reasonable that you'd be pissed off.

    It's good that you've talked to her about it... But I think it's a bit strange that she's not tried to tone it down at all even thought you've expressed being uncomfortable with it... Doesn't sound like she's all that willing to make the effort to stop for you which would get me a bit miffed too.

    Sounds to me as though she's making up for some low self esteem or something. People who crave that much attention seem to do so because they need to be reassured that people like them all the time cos they're not too sure about liking themselves. In which case, you should absolutly not take it personally as it doesn't reflect on how much she likes you, more how much she likes herself.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I know two female friends who are like this. I don't know why but they do 'crave attention' as Lu_C put it. I've never seen them to cheat or be unfaithful, they just love guys staring at them or showing that they're interested, and will often dress and act provocatively around men in order to get the attention even if they have a boyfriend.

    It might be self esteem issues, I've no idea - the girls I've known to do it seem to be fairly sure of themselves. Think of the song "girls just wanna have fun" pretty much sums them up...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'd kill her if I were you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i love her too much to kill her, lol

    yeah i know she would never be unfaithfull she loves me to bits, and yeah she does constantly worry about how big her ass, thighs and belly looks, she is gorgeous but doesnt really believe it, she doesnt actively seek it as such or dress particularly provocatively but she doesnt actively discourage the attention either, she gets uncomfortable about showing too much even when we're alone together,

    well she has kinda toned it down when i'm around, she doesnt act like she's single or anything, just enjoys the attention a little too much before telling em to back off lol
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The way I see it though, if I done that in front of my man I'd be disrespecting him and thats not on.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If it winds you up, get out!

    Unless she's willing to change her very personailty, you'll be stuck in this position for the duration of the relationship! I've been you, and its not nice. It plays on your mind and drives you mad!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's either a case of not much confidence (needs the flirting) or too much confidence (arrogant and thinks she can get away with it)

    I'd have a serious word because otherwise it'll get worse. She'll say your paranoid, then you'll start to beleive you are paranoid then she'll play other little mind games because she'll be able top put more of her flirting down to this supposed paranoia.

    Hope it sorts out anyway, bud.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    She may tell you you've got nothing to worry about, but she has something to worry about! If she cares about you, she would be upset that her actions are upsetting you. Maybe she thinks all you want is reassurance that she won't cheat, try and make her understand its the stuff she does already that you don't like.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You're not being unreasonable at all.

    Maybe you should speak to her because I bet she would fucking hate it if you acted how she does.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think she just doesn't know the difference between being friendly, and being flirty...

    Well, I think you are not reasonable, but not in the way that you think...

    You are REASONABLE that you jealous, but you are not because you jealous not as much as you should in fact...

    It is worse then being a slut, to tease guys only for then to say to them that they have no chance, it is unfair, and it is bad...

    And in fact I don't think it is reasonable to flirt with other guy if you have BF, call it friendly flirt or whatever... oh and I don't understand what 'friendly flirt" is at all...

    You don't need to flirt with your friends... I can have friends, JUST friends, but don't flirt with them, and so they know that we are just friends and that's it...

    Well, I think you are TOO tolerant toward her :-)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This isn't fair on you, and it won't make for a healthy relationship down the line. I have to admit, it sounds familiar - in that I used to enjoy attention from other guys whilst being in a relationship, and sometimes encourage it, but I've just grown up a bit, learned some respect and know that if my current boyfriend did it to me i'd be so upset.

    I think you need to stop being so accepting, because at the start of my current relationship, my bf made it perfectly clear that he wouldn't accept any flirting, because he sees it as a form of cheating, and thats fair enough. If it's made clear, and she wants you, she should stop this completely. Hope it works out ok, x
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Shitehawke wrote: »
    now i dont wanna portray my girl as a cock tease cos she's not she never oversteps the line in a big way, its more a case of they get too friendly and she doesnt tell em to back off unless they touch her somewhere too personal or go in for a kiss

    Isn't that a 'cock tease'?

    cock tease
    noun
    1. (context, slang, vulgar) A person, usually a woman, who teases a man but then withdraws an alluded-to promise of sexual intercourse.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    is that from one of Viz's Profanasauruses Teagan?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ...make her understand that if she is with you she is not allowed to walk over you... she sounds a little bit of a freak, since it actually UPSETS her that she is not getting attention... you need to set some non-verbal rules, a change in the way you communicate to her should show her this is unacceptable...
    And you honestly wonder why people find your views on women so abhorrent?

    Let's have a look at this small section that I've quoted. For starters, you say she should "make her understand that she is not allowed to walk over you". From the way you talk, it's hard to tell whether you think his girlfriend is a human being or a dog. There is a hell of a difference between a bit of gentle flirting with other men and "walking over" her own boyfriend. He doesn't like it? Tough. Sounds more like a classic case of jealousy to me. Unnecessary jealousy at that. She is HIS girlfriend - that's the central point, and as long as she doesn't actually do anything with one of these guys, what's the problem?

    Next up, you note that "she sounds a little bit of a freak, since it actually UPSETS her that she is not getting attention". Really? So following your logic, if women get a little upset when their boyfriends aren't paying attention to them, they're freaks. Are you saying that women don't deserve attention and that they should be grateful for whatever attention they get from their man? Again, it sounds more like you're advising him how to look after a dog than a woman.

    But the most sinister statement amidst all that was this - "you need to set some non-verbal rules, a change in the way you communicate to her should show her this is unacceptable". Non-verbal communication? And how exactly is he supposed to communicate with her, then?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The fact that she's sulking when she doesn't get other male attention sounds quite childish to me - sounds like she wants the best of both worlds.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The arguement that she is doing nothign wrong is a totally other subject but this is relevant to him and if he feels like she is being dis respectful towards him then there is a problem there. I don't think it's a big problem to call her behaviour unacceptable.
    He considers it an issue, I do not. However, how I'd react isn't especially relevant here. It's definitely something they will need to look at as a couple. A long talk would probably just lead to arguments, so a few shrift, short words may be enough.
    He should not give her attention when she is seeking the attention of tohers. It's a lot more clear if you read my post again. i get the feeling that you are moving towards a physical kind of accusation?
    Categorically not, Matt. I just wanted clarification on what you meant. Whilst it makes some sense, I'm still left with some questions.
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