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5 htp & depression

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Always feel crappy this time of year.

I'm in councilling an' all that, but considering taking something light to give me a boost.

Any ideas?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I take fish oils and I found they helped a lot (and also got rid of the spots on my arms, hurray for side effects!). I know of people who take St Johns Wort, but I don't know that much about it - is this the sort of thing you mean?

    Whenever this time of year comes up, I try to watch my intake of products with a lot of caffeine, sugar and processed stuff. Leafy veg, nuts etc to keep magnesium levels and foods with B vitamins. I also try to exercise more and get out and see more comedies; I feel much better after physically laughing.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    One of my best mates has just started on 5htp to compliment his counselling.. so should be able to have more info in a week or two..

    As above, St Johns Wort is meant to be good though? I am going to be giving that a go early next year

    Are you against proper medication then?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    go_away wrote: »
    I take fish oils and I found they helped a lot (and also got rid of the spots on my arms, hurray for side effects!).
    Yes, but I don't eat animals.
    Are you against proper medication then?
    I don't trust it. Basically, I'm a very busy person who does two jobs that require talking to people. Also am a volunteer and in my final year of uni... So I can't risk a fuzzy head or being numb which is what anti-depressents do to me.

    I am having more lows than normal at the moment, but I'm pretty sure it's SAD. I'm not really enjoying much and I'm dreading socialising tomorrow. :(

    However, I get highs too. I'd rather try something gentler at first and still feel because I live to experience emotion, happy and sad and without it I'm nothing.

    I don't consider myself to be serious enough to go back on prozac anyway.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    light box maybe?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm the same, I don't like to medicate really, the few times I tried anti-depressants they made me numb and spaced out so I just chuck em in the bin lol.

    SAD I think affects lots of people here, my girlfriend gets it terribly and I do later in the winter.. especially as I work shifts.

    Especially when we have a fucking craphole summer too! urgh.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    how about er bach's rescue remedy? it's flowers, usually makes me feel on a level...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yeah my girlfiend used to use that rescue stuff with her anxiety, will ask her about it for you later
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    C FunkC Funk Deactivated Posts: 163 Helping Hand
    Hey Namaste,

    SAD (Seasonal affective disorder) affects around 2% of the population of Northern Europe and many sufferers have symptoms that can severely disrupt their lives. There are quite a few treatments that can be used to help manage your symptoms. Counselling is a popular and effective treatment, so it’s good to hear that you have started going to sessions to help. The Seasonal affective disorder association has loads of helpful information about the different forms of treatment for SAD that you might want to take a look at.

    Like Cheese on Toast mentioned antidepressants are sometimes used to complement counselling, but some people say that these do not help a great deal because they exacerbate some of the symptoms like sleepiness and lethargy.

    Light therapy has been shown to be the most effective treatment for SAD. This is the exposure to very bright light for up to four hours per day. Light boxes are not available on the NHS and have to be bought from specialist retailers.

    There’s a really helpful article on SAD on TheSite.org that you might want to have a look at, or check out the NHS direct article on it.

    Hope this helps :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You can get those things that stimulate a sunrise instead of an alarm clock, so you're woken up gently rather than being woken up suddenly when it still feels like the middle of the night.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fish Oil - Omega 3
    Namaste wrote: »
    Yes, but I don't eat animals.

    It's the Omega 3 in fish oils that can help which can be sourced elsewhere. They are also found in flaxseed oil (which is the same thing as linseed oil) although it needs to be consumed raw to be of benefit as cooking it destroys it apparently. You can buy Vegetarian/ Vegan Omega 3 in capsules from larger pharmacies or from Waitrose or you could just try including some linseeds in your diet.

    I went to a talk a while ago by a consultant pyschiatrist (for my local mental health service users group) called "Dealing with Depression" and he highly recommended the Omega 3, he said he takes it himself to keep depression at bay as well.

    There have been many studies into Omega 3 and depression and the results are quite consistently in favour of it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    St John's Wort

    I wanted to say that whilst I have no personal experience of this one you need to be really careful with St John's Wort as it can stop other medications from working properly (including the contraceptive pill). Also the dosage etc is very inconsistent between brands. Medical professionals have warned me off this one.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i would try aromatherapy, i'm carrying around a bottle of neroli atm, to perk me up when i need it...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I am trying out St. Johns Wort as I have been feeling down for quite a few months and thinking I am starting to develop anorexia as a result. Think the weather may be making it worse! Maybe it's not wise though. I have started counselling and will speak to him about it, see what he thinks of it!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Got some 50mg 5 htp...

    Will let people know how I get along
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Namaste wrote: »
    Got some 50mg 5 htp...

    Will let people know how I get along

    5htp is an odd one, I have found periods where I have used it have improved my general mood. The problem with it though is that it can give you really intense dreams and end up disturbing your sleep pattern.
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