DMT

Former Member · February 2002

Anyone tried it?

Had a look on Erowid.com, sounds pretty hardcore <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> but nothing about side effects etc - is there any/how bad is it for you!?

Does anyone know anymore about it?

Cheers all...

Former Member · February 2002

I, like you came across DMT in the Erowid vault. Me and my mates being severely skint decided produce a drug to sell. DMT was the obvious choice.

If you put your mind to it, like me and my mates did, it's quite easy to make. It can be produced synthetically or by extracting it from certain plants.

We did the latter even though some of us are quite good at Chemistry - it was just a lot cheaper and easier. We got some Phalaris grass through mail order of the net cos it's easy to grow. Then we extrcacted a smokeable form of DMT with simple instructions.

The first load of DMT we produced was shit, somewhere along the way we kept fucking up but in the end we got it right. It ooks like tar and is a REALLY harsh smoke but the trip is the most intense drug I've ever taken. Beware, don't do much your first time. It's the sort of drug that will put you falat on your back before you've even breathed out. Have someone with you.

If I could buy it I'd probably do it a lot cos it's good for a laugh but I've never tried to make it more than those few times.

Anyway just incase your intested in doing the same (cos DMT aint easy to come by) here's the link off Erowid with the process that we followed. http://www.erowid.org/plants/phalaris/phalaris_info3.shtml

[ 12-02-2002: Message edited by: 'Skive ]

Former Member · February 2002

Firstly, DMT isn't a substance for the casual user.. and it definitely isn't a "pleasure drug", it's very heavily psychedelic, the DiMethylTryptamine molecule is unique because it's the only known endogenous hallucinogen (produced within the human brain), it formed the basis for the only US DEA-Approved study on an illegal psychedelic to date. (covered in DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Dr Rick Strassman), 60 volounteers were injected with varying doses (smoking DMT brings similar results), over & over again they reported a "near-death" type experience... NOTE: mentally, they were not literally near death. At a fully psychedelic dose the conciousness is catapulted into another realm.. one filled with "beings" described as Aliens, Insectoids, Angels, Demons, Clowns Mannequins, Elves. The themes were repeating, this eventually even contributed to the studies being ended.

DMT is in many ways the simplest psychedelic molecule, it is only one less oxygen atom and two more carbon atoms away from Serotonin (the big-gun neurotransmitter were all so fond of affecting), they are so similar that DMT will bond with receptor sites as if it were Serotonin, this is how DMT (and many other psychedelics) work, literally connecting the brain together in a unique way.

If you decide to try it.. be very careful, as the last post said... have a "sitter" - not for the kids - for you asshole! ;-) ... someone to make sure you don't go wandering. Previous Psilocybin mushroom experience is very helpful (Psilocybin is basically a slow-release DMT), LSD or Mescaline experience may also prepare you to a certain extent. if you have no psychedelic experience (forget E / MDMA or normal amounts of MJ).. smoking DMT would really be jumping in at the freaking deep end...

As for experienced psychonauts, the very curious or those poor souls who will try anything, the best sources of DMT are probably Phalaris Grass (easy to grow, inconspicous) and Diplopterys Cabrerana leaves (strong in DMT), for a simple extraction.. drip some strong sugarless alcohol through the herb, then let the alc evaporate and hey presto you have a sticky tar filled with DMT crystals - street name "Elf Spice", this is totally illegal i should point out!..

As for bad health effects.. a healthy mind & body is fully able to cope with a psychedelic amount of DMT... though it will raise the heart rate & blood pressure, there souldn't be any hangover but you could feel slightly hazy for the next day or so :: :Overdose signs are a rocketing pulse rate, very high blood pressure and a subsequent lack of memory of the trip, you should still survive unless you really overdid it:: - don't even think about taking DMT if you have heart or blood pressure trouble or are diabetic etc, also if you have (or think you have) ANY mental health problems.

Also don't forget.... any psychedelic "trip" can be so disturbing or so enlightening that it changes your life forever.. you can't unlearn this knowledge so think very carefully before acquiring it.

[ 13-02-2002: Message edited by: Psilocybian ]

Former Member · February 2002

Damn, that sounds like some scary shit!!

Psilocybian, you're not doing a neuroscience course are you?? Pretty extensive knowledge there.

Former Member · February 2002

hehe... yeah it scares me too...

not the drugs, just how much i know about em.

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Former Member · February 2002

Before we made it, none of us knew much about it. We thought we'd be able to sell it. We were wrong. After a lot of persuading a few people took a few free samples and they didn't come back.

We smoked it quite regulary for about a week. It's a really harsh smoke and it did my chest in for a while.

I've done acid and shrooms and the trip comes no where close to this shit. Didn't see no elves or anything but I do remember feeling as though the universe was expanding and I was at the very edge of it. I can't really even make sense of it now. The trip doesn't last that long either but it seems like hours have passed. Worth a try though if you can be bothered to make it!

Psilocybian, I gather from your name you like you magic's? Every tried Fly Agaric's (the red ones with white dots). Have been doing these for a couple of years now and they're worth a try too as long as you find out what you're doing first.

I've decided with all this talk of DMT I'm going to order some more Phalaris grass. Time for another blat on it I think. <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

Former Member · February 2002

yep I do love to dabble with the little mushies from time to time.. I haven't tried Fly Agaric yet, I did go looking for them once upon a time but didn't find any (i think it was too late in the year).. from what Ive read the effects of fly agarics are a little unreliable.. i know they make some poeple puke, how would you compare them with psilocybin shrooms? (assuming you have tried em that is..)

the thing is hehe...
I get little Psilocybes in my back garden in spring and autumn.. if that isn't a sign i don't know what is.

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Former Member · February 2002

Fly's are wicked. Being probably the most common toadstool there's a lot of fun that can be had from these.

As for making you puke, they always make me. You have to prepare them as well. Hrat 'em in the oven until they dry out theneat about 3 medium caps. They're listed as poisoness but they're safe in the right doses. Plus they are the eaisest to recognise and therefore hard to confuse with deadly varieties.

They give you gut ache but the high is a lot cleaner than normal liberty's and has some weird effects on your body such as making you exagerate movements of you body. Instead of taking a small jump forward to avoid something in your way you'fd take a giant leap. Visuals are good as well.

Former Member · February 2002

Thanks for all the info guys, much appreciated - I am pleased to report a succesful test flight last night!

To get a serious hit we heard that 50mg would be right so for a first time we did about 30mg. Strange brown crystals look like brown sugar but smell seriously weird! Never done any kind of trip before so we were erm excited!

As you said, seriously harsh on the lungs & hard to keep in but you must... Following that well holy mother jesus & mary (sorry about the blasphemy but....): Wow! A really gentl come up of warmth, fuzzyness,patterns, beautifulness, simply incredible! Out & over after c5 minutes, Euphoric for another 5c, completely sober after another 5... By the way, I mean completely sober - no fuzzyness, nothing - incredible!

Didn't quite reach the "intergalactic highway" but will give that a shot next week with 50mg...

Thx for the growing link I am suddenly becoming interested in Garden Centres... <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

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