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Pedestrian Crossings
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A question to put to you all, to discuss.
Why do we bother having pedestrian crossings anymore when it more than appears to be the case that we, pedestrians, no longer exist to vehicle drivers.
Every day, every single day, when i walk to work vehicles drive through the Amber light, the red light, hell the green man, don't let the fact that people are WALKING across what is supposed to be a safe place for them to do so stop you from driving through it oh no !
Worse still are Zebra crossings. Whilst walking across the middle of two different zebra crossings in different parts of the city the amount of traffic i have witnessed who continue to drive through them is simply outrageous not to mention most of these are actually speeding whilst zipping through these pedestrian zebra crossings.
I was nearly hit by a car nearly a week ago whilst crossing a zebra crossing. Zebra crossings are for people to walk cross the road safely not for vehicle drivers to play human bowling with ! Every other time i have stood at the zebra crossing round the corner from here i have stopped at the edge to state my intent to want to cross, do vehicles stop as they are supposed to ? Do they hell as like !
The highway code clearly states Amber/Red means stop, well it is supposed to but obviously drivers don't see it that way.
So what's going on with all this shit, is it going to take the death of a person crossing a supposed safe area for them to cross to get the police and council to act !?
How many of you vehicle drivers here do what i've just talked about ?
How many of you pedestrians have witnessed what i have just mentioned ?
This is why i liked where i used to stay, we had underpasses and overpasses to keep people and vehicles completely out of each others way's. Unfortunately City's like this just don't have the space to do such a thing everywhere.
I think it's about time the council and police sorted this out but it's as if they don't see this happening, with all their CCTV and stuff.
and just to make this even by the way this is a 50/50 problem PEOPLE can be JUST AS BAD as the vehicle drivers at times, note i say at time's.
Why do we bother having pedestrian crossings anymore when it more than appears to be the case that we, pedestrians, no longer exist to vehicle drivers.
Every day, every single day, when i walk to work vehicles drive through the Amber light, the red light, hell the green man, don't let the fact that people are WALKING across what is supposed to be a safe place for them to do so stop you from driving through it oh no !
Worse still are Zebra crossings. Whilst walking across the middle of two different zebra crossings in different parts of the city the amount of traffic i have witnessed who continue to drive through them is simply outrageous not to mention most of these are actually speeding whilst zipping through these pedestrian zebra crossings.
I was nearly hit by a car nearly a week ago whilst crossing a zebra crossing. Zebra crossings are for people to walk cross the road safely not for vehicle drivers to play human bowling with ! Every other time i have stood at the zebra crossing round the corner from here i have stopped at the edge to state my intent to want to cross, do vehicles stop as they are supposed to ? Do they hell as like !
The highway code clearly states Amber/Red means stop, well it is supposed to but obviously drivers don't see it that way.
So what's going on with all this shit, is it going to take the death of a person crossing a supposed safe area for them to cross to get the police and council to act !?
How many of you vehicle drivers here do what i've just talked about ?
How many of you pedestrians have witnessed what i have just mentioned ?
This is why i liked where i used to stay, we had underpasses and overpasses to keep people and vehicles completely out of each others way's. Unfortunately City's like this just don't have the space to do such a thing everywhere.
I think it's about time the council and police sorted this out but it's as if they don't see this happening, with all their CCTV and stuff.
and just to make this even by the way this is a 50/50 problem PEOPLE can be JUST AS BAD as the vehicle drivers at times, note i say at time's.
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But in the grand scheme of things, no matter which way you travel, there's a group that'll dislike you.
I think that it is the case that nothing will get done until sadly someone is killed, it just seems like otherwise, no one gives a shit.
Then you get people who just cross in random places and wait in the middle of the road as if they're wearing some sort of magic cloak of prtection.
And cyclists, who said they were permitted to start hogging the lanes? Most of the roads I use have perfectly good cycle lanes, do the cyclists use them? No, they venture onto my domain and get in everyone's way.
*Rant over*
This isn't a new thing. I had an extremely near miss with a car on a zebra crossing about 20 years ago. I remember that because I was with my little sister who was only about five at the time and I literally had to jump out of the way, dragging her with me. It wasn't the only time either.
People have been killed on zebra crossings before as well.
Shall I tell you what though, you're right when you say pedestrians can be just as bed. Lately I've been noticing how, more and more, they just wander into the road where there's no crossing, or at a crossing when it's not the time to cross, without looking, or caring that there's an oncoming vehicle, and then take thier time and stroll across the road all leisurely like, as if they had all the time in the world. I swear some people think they're invincible.
The only thing about that is that technically you don't have to stop unless someone is actually on the zebra crossing (even one foot on it counts), although really you would anyway if someone was standing there waiting (well you would if you had any decency).
There is a crossing near me that is about 20 metres off a roundabout exit, thats the only time i've nearly hit someone.
may be out of date though
agree with some of the points about pedestrans bein just as bad, they'll risk crossing a busy road when there's a crossing about 5 yards up the road!
20: Where there is an island in the middle of a zebra crossing, wait on the island and follow Rule 19 before you cross the second half of the road - it is a separate crossing.
How sad that i searched the Highway Code for this!
naughty!x
Edit: just looked and its pelican crossings that you should treat as one, not zebra
My brother was driving along a high street at 20/25 miles per hour and a young lady stepped out from the kerb between two parked cars, looking down because she was texting on her mobile phone, drunk and staggering anyway and he hit her. She said it was her fault at the scene as did onlookers but my brother is still being charged with dangerous driving, poor mite. He's no angel, but for once he wasn't actually doing anything wrong!
I think I've seen this before. And some odd drivers stop when the man is red as well.
What exactly did he do wrong though?
Anyone else found that there some drivers who will not stop and nearly run them over, even when you were clearly the first one to cross the road? This happened to me one time - I was walking from town and have to cross a small lane to get home. I was walking across the lane, midning mine own businness and this van comes speeding out of nowhere and I had to stop for him to go up the lane - even though I was there first.
As a driver though I'd like to think that I am aware of what is going on around me. In part I put that down to the fact that I used to ride a motorcycle and I learned the hardway that car drivers are morons.
Oh i definitely agree cyclists are certainly up there as well. I completely agree with you about people just wandering into the road. It's the same with people waiting at the green man and they just run out across the road as a bus or HGV rapidly approaches, i just think you myself they are such stupid idiots putting themselves in such a position as to be so close to losing their lives. Like vehicles cyclists just ride on through the Green man when you are in the road crossing !
I like your thinking however i need and want to keep the use of all my bodily movements and functions
Oh i can completely understand that Miffy but then you have to wonder, if it's gone on for this long, even with people being killed on Zebra crossings or hit whilst crossing on the Green man, why is it still happening ?
This thing regarding the technicalities of crossing on a zebra crossing, I've tried different approaches but each time i had the same result, vehicles will just carry on driving through not giving a care if you are on it. In fact one time i was walking across a zebra crossing a car driver was going mental in the car, as if i was doing something wrong and putting them out by crossing at the zebra crossing, it really REALLY pisses me the hell off.
I'd go as far as to say that at least once a day i come across a vehicle that is on a collision course with myself, it really is that bad around here. I'm very observant when out though constantly aware of everything around me but that's not enough everyone should be aware of everything around them, one person doing it isnt enough.
Now someone tell me something, as i've always wondered about this, the little camera type device that sits atop traffic lights, and i'm aware not on ALL traffic lights, what does it actually do, is it like a CCTV camera or a speed capturing device or simply some kind of vehicle monitor and not a camera at all.