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Just one thing I'm sensitive to really getting me down...

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Hey everyone,

Hope you're good. Thanks for all the advice. I took a few days off work to read www.HowToBeCooler.com in great depth, which is a fantastic, valuable insight, even for people generally deemed 'sociable' it can be really helpful to finetune oneself.

I've been in a much more positive mood, forgetting about being single / virgin / never had girlfriend etc, keeping myself busy so life is fine, in the mindframe that if something comes along then that's all good but I'm not going to get depressed trying desperately to look for it.

However, just with normal everyday conversation with people they'll always ask the same thing that really gets me down. Every single day this week when I have caught up with friends, they'll always ask the same question naturally: "How's your lovelife?" or "So how's your ladies situation?", often after going into depth about their own. It just really gets me down as I'm then reminded of the fact that I can't get anything. And I really don't know how to respond properly - it's not in my nature to lie, and I know from what you've said how offputting it is to go into a self-pitying "I'm completely unfanciable, nobody will ever want to go out with me so I have no choice but to remain single" track.

Things then get worse when I don't know what to say, and whether I say the truth, try and change subject saying I don't want to talk about it, or appear a bit hazy, I always then get grilled by them on the subject. And twice it's ended up with the incredibly frustrating "Oh but you're such a wonderful guy, I can't see how any girl wouldn't want you" crap by single girls who themselves wouldn't go out with me. :banghead: Which drives me pretty insane.

So overall the last few nights, going out to bars, clubs and house parties has always left me feeling pretty miserable as the subject always crops up with friends innocently asking "How's my women situation?". Typically it's people who don't know me that well who assume I'm a normal guy who'll be dating or being shown interest by people or pulling on nights out, like pretty much most young London graduates, innocently asking. How do I not get cut up about it and respond in a way that'll not drive me further into depression and stop them grilling me?

Thx x

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It shouldn't be a difficult situation.

    Just make a joke out of the question "Oh i'm just waiting for the right one to come along" or "non-existent" and laugh. Nothing is wrong with being single, just answer the question and move the conversation along to something else.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    squeal wrote: »
    It shouldn't be a difficult situation.

    Just make a joke out of the question "Oh i'm just waiting for the right one to come along" or "non-existent" and laugh. Nothing is wrong with being single, just answer the question and move the conversation along to something else.

    Or bwhen your mate asks you ow your lovelife is, you say "Ohh you mean your mother? Yeah, she's great."
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What kind of people do ask those questions? I mean, it's ok to ask for a little insight, but they seem to go into deep detail and rub their experience (or wet-dreams), under your nose. I think they DO know how to wind you up, and they do it with a sadistic passion.

    I am still a bit suspicious about your 'friends' circle. Just make a joke of it, like it has been said. What's so bad with a simple, "Oh, well I am single at the moment." If he wants anymore detail riposte with, "Don't be so nosy.." or whatever. I think you can come up with something better. Why should it be legitimate to get every single detail out of someones sexlife, if your relationship towards seem not too close?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Make a joke out of it as squel suggested. If someone pushes harder for details tell them its none of their nosy buisness and change the subject. Once you've done it a few times it becomes second nature.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Make a joke out of it as squel suggested. If someone pushes harder for details tell them its none of their nosy buisness and change the subject. Once you've done it a few times it becomes second nature.

    and if that doesn't work, a swift headbutt to the nose works for me :p

    Just make a joke out of it or take the mick back, thats what i really do.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    they dont sound like such good mates if you worry about them bringing up your lovelife....just tell them as it is, say you're single, simple

    you should be able to be yourself around your mates, not pretend
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    and if that doesn't work, a swift headbutt to the nose works for me :p

    Just make a joke out of it or take the mick back, thats what i really do.

    you mean, you being on the receiving end of the headbutt, because you wouldn't shut up about everyone's sex life? Well, you have to know best if it worked

    ;);)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :blush:

    I believe I've been misunderstood, switch it round to you giving the headbutt. ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    StrubbleS wrote: »
    What kind of people do ask those questions? I mean, it's ok to ask for a little insight, but they seem to go into deep detail and rub their experience (or wet-dreams), under your nose. I think they DO know how to wind you up, and they do it with a sadistic passion.

    I am still a bit suspicious about your 'friends' circle. Just make a joke of it, like it has been said. What's so bad with a simple, "Oh, well I am single at the moment." If he wants anymore detail riposte with, "Don't be so nosy.." or whatever. I think you can come up with something better. Why should it be legitimate to get every single detail out of someones sexlife, if your relationship towards seem not too close?
    When you're catching up with people, it's part of completely normal conversation, sorta things you'll ask will be (a) how's your studies going (if they're still at uni / doing Masters/PhD), (b) how's work going, (c) done anything exciting recently eg holidays and (d) how's your lovelife.

    All the incidents this week it's been people who've not known about my situation, they'll know I'm single but still be innocently asking if there's any girls on the horizon - pretty much all "single" people here will still be chasing/dating or have recently pulled etc. I've tried joking off "non-existent" which just leads to grilling or sympathy or some stupid cliched response.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    I took a few days off work to read www.HowToBeCooler.com in great depth,

    That in itself is uncool though :chin:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    . I took a few days off work to read www.HowToBeCooler.com in great depth, which is a fantastic, valuable insight, even for people generally deemed 'sociable' it can be really helpful to finetune oneself.

    Don't try so hard, and definitely don't waste your time off reading crappy websites.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Dunno, there's some really good advice on there, in particular I'm much more self-conscious now and think before I say anything when meeting new people to come across as more attractive and likeable, in particular being coming across really positive and happy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And twice it's ended up with the incredibly frustrating "Oh but you're such a wonderful guy, I can't see how any girl wouldn't want you" crap by single girls who themselves wouldn't go out with me. Which drives me pretty insane.

    I know that one very well indeed and it's the most annoying thing in the world.

    Hope it sorts itself out and you can overcome this Jomery, when you do, can you let me know how its done please fella so I can rediscover my will to live.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    BarmyArmy wrote: »
    I know that one very well indeed and it's the most annoying thing in the world.

    Hope it sorts itself out and you can overcome this Jomery, when you do, can you let me know how its done please fella so I can rediscover my will to live.

    Have you tried reading the link that Jomery had been reading ??

    Give it a look

    :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Calvin wrote: »
    Have you tried reading the link that Jomery had been reading ??

    Give it a look

    :thumb:
    It's actually really crap for this particular problem, the article mentions the problem but gives no solution for how to overcome it: http://www.succeedsocially.com/defensive
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    When you're catching up with people, it's part of completely normal conversation, sorta things you'll ask will be (a) how's your studies going (if they're still at uni / doing Masters/PhD), (b) how's work going, (c) done anything exciting recently eg holidays and (d) how's your lovelife.

    All the incidents this week it's been people who've not known about my situation, they'll know I'm single but still be innocently asking if there's any girls on the horizon - pretty much all "single" people here will still be chasing/dating or have recently pulled etc. I've tried joking off "non-existent" which just leads to grilling or sympathy or some stupid cliched response.

    Well, maybe a little question on the side, but if they go into great detail and ask you every fraction of your lovelife (especially when only catching up), I think it is a bit out of order. Well, not for me, I have no problem to talk long and wide about it (and I'm getting jack at the moment as well), but the difference is, it doesn't bug me.

    Just go like, "Oh, I am single right this moment, the right one hasn't crossed my path yet, hehe.", or, "Well, I had my beady eye on someone, but it didn't quite work out, haha...", or, "oh, I'm a bit shy :blush: let's just say the girls are missing out on me, heh."

    Can't believe we have to prefabricate phrases for you, just you can lead normal conversation, or slid out of an uncomfortable topic. If they give you sympathy just be like, "aww, thanks... but what about (a drink, your careerm...) [changes topic]?"
    Calvin wrote: »
    :thumb:
    this is most definitely your favourtie smiley, judging from a couple of your posts :p

    /eta: As stupid as it might sound, but if I met a girl who is hopelessly single just as I am, and she's giving me fake sympathy about "awwww, you are the guy every girl is waiting for." I'd confront her about it. "Well, here I am, you don't have to wait anymore." She'll probably follow with a crappy excuse... As misogynistic as this might be, I'd stop hanging out with her. Look after yourself, she's not doing you any good, you are obviously not good enough for her and you don't need x girl-friends who you have the hots for, so they can dump their problems and sorrow on you. I definitely don't want to feel like a tool for someone...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I just got confronted by a woman's boyfriend to see if I've ever messed around with the aforementioned girl. And I'm pissed like all hell, but I still have to answer. I feel like shit. Out of all of the people that could've been there, they shouldn't've.

    Ah, blass, it's just the piss talking. Fuck it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    StrubbleS wrote: »
    :thumb: this is most definitely your favourtie smiley, judging from a couple of your posts :p

    Sure is fella. I think of it like my trademark :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    People I work with, Uni and the most of the groups I send my nights out with don’t know I’m a virgin, only my close mates. Its like being in a secret club. It can be really frustrating sometimes cos you get people saying stupid comments (same scenario as yours, Jomery). Yes StubbleS there really are people who have nothing better to do then ask you about the ins and outs of your love life. when dealing with comments use StubbleS adivce.

    After awhile they well notice that it doesn't wand you up anymore cos your past caring. You just have to become comfortable in your own skin first then soon you will see the change in others towards you.:)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Do they ask how your lovelife is or for your whole love history? I can't believe they ask the latter. For the former, you can just say that you're single at the moment. Is "single" a dirty word or something? Maybe follow up with "know anyone nice?" question. My guess is that you might possible "freak out" when asked that question.

    I also think you're going to the wrong places to try to meet a partner. Young professionals do not, as a rule, meet them at clubs. Many are introduced by friends. Others use online ads or dating agencies etc. Learn to "wine and dine". And whatever you do don't pour out your woes! The right girl won't ask you too much about your past and if they do you can simply say "nothing serious". You don't have to say "nothing at all".
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