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Death sentence lifted
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/6154048.stm
Some good news. Well done to all those involved in campaigning for this and Musharraf for commuting the death sentence.
Some good news. Well done to all those involved in campaigning for this and Musharraf for commuting the death sentence.
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I find the death penalty abhorrent, but he's only had his sentence commuted because he's British. He shouldn't be treated any differently, and should hang unless all death sentences are commuted.
But it was (as the article claims) in self defence. Do you think someone should be put to death because they acted in self defence?
To be fair that claim was rejected by the courts.
I support the commutation of the death penalty because whether he is guilty or innocent I think the death penalty is generally wrong.
He was found guilty of murder in a court of law, and sentenced to the appropriate punishment for murder in that country.
I don't think he should hang because I am against the death penalty, but I don't think he should be reprieved when the rest of the men on death row won't be. I don't think he should get preferential treatment because of who he is, and that is what has happened. There's even talk of him being allowed back to this country, which is even worse.
What's that all about then ?
They had originally accepted £50000, but then changed their minds.
The taxi driver's family decided that seeing this murderer hang was more important to them. Which is something that I can sympathise with, and its interesting to see that Tony Blair isn't sticking up for their rights.
How many courts should he have been tried in.
In this case there were several, one of which acquitted him :eek:
A Sharia court.
I can see kermit's point actually. As far as I'm concerned this guy is blatantly not guilty and as, as MOK pointed out been aquitted in a secular court. But he shouldn't get special treatment because of who he is, it should be because he didn't do anything wrong.
It's not a court of law of a democratically elected system. It's a court of a self appointed elite of religous freaks.
In America, they'll execute someone who isn't mentally sound.
In Pakistan, Sharia law, is the law, whether you like it or not.
If you'd like the change the system, feel free, but that's not really the point is it? The point is that he's getting his punishment changed because he's british, not because they decided they might be wrong. That's not fair on all the other people sitting on death row is it?
I give up then.
The legal code is completely irrelevant. Whether he's guilty or not doesn't matter, that Sharia law is a complete arsewipe and you only have to look at the fact that rape requires 4 male witnesses (or the woman will get punished for adultery) to see that, doesn't matter.
No, that isn't fair. However, would you rather he was executed in pursuit of some notion of fairness?
And the legal code is relevant. The Sharia courts are not accountable to anyone but themselves, unlike the state run justice system.
he was found innocent in a criminal court, through self defence - however self defence doesnt apply in islamic law which he then got tried under to appease the cab drivers family.....
Since the British government does not believe in the death penalty it's only to be expected they will try to save as many British lives as possible.
I wonder if those who say he shouldn't have got special treatment would stick to their principles and tell the British government not to intervene on their behalf if they found themselves facing the death penalty abroad... :chin:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/16/wpak16.xml
The dropping of the death sentence needs to be seen in that light as well.
However the point is that he should have been pardoned by the president because the sharia court was wrong, or aquitted under Pakistani legal process (which I realise he has been though to little effect), not had his sentance commuted because he was british and prince charles asked them to do it.
The article said he was cleared by the high court, but then a Sharia court which worked differently (and apparently unjustly?) sentenced him to the death penalty.
I agree in a way, but I disagree also
Just because you can't save all the lives doesn't mean the life that can be saved shouldn't.