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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Is it possible to get a brace free, at an NHS dentist at the age of 22?

Also.. Does anyone know how much it would cost privately?

I had one when i was 13ish but I never wore it :(

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Funnily enough i've been to the dentist today and it's all changed. There are 3 basic charges now. £15.50p for basic exam, scale, polish and x-rays. £44 ish for fillings and root canals. £189 for crowns, dentures. Unless you're on JSA, Income support you'll have to pay. Braces would be the 44 or 189 rate.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    OMG is that the same everywhere?
    I asked my dentist years ago, and he said it would cost about 3 grand!!!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm not sure if that applies to orthodontic work though, and if it does it will only apply to orthodontic work done on the NHS.

    If you wanted to look into it properly then you would need to see on orthodontist, for which you'd need a referral from your regular dentist. So at your next check up ask them about it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've gone private and it's cost about 4 grand for the whole treatment plan. I go the the Ortho's house once every month, it's pretty damn sound I must say!

    You would need to talk to your dentist and then get a referal to see an Ortho at the hospital and then take it from there.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Surely braces at this age wont make much difference though will they? i thought the whole point of having them when you are young is that your teeth are still growing and have not had chance to settle in yet?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    icey wrote:
    Surely braces at this age wont make much difference though will they? i thought the whole point of having them when you are young is that your teeth are still growing and have not had chance to settle in yet?

    They work at any age. Young or Old... It's got nothing to do with your teeth not being settled, as they already are whether you're young or not. Braces 'unsettle' your teeth at any age so the ortho can position them in the correct alignment.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My pal had a brace fitted on her top teeth this summer (aged 22) and last month had the bottom brace fixed on. They will be staying on 'til next summer when she will be having her jaw broken and rewired apparently -- her teeth aren't even particularly bad so I was pretty shocked when she told me of her plans. But she [and her dentist] feel that they will only get worse with age and she feels like it's worth having a couple of years of mild discomfort and aesthetic disadvantage in her twenties rather than looking a state when she gets older as she imagines she will.

    That was all information surplus to requirements. She is having hers done on the NHS, though she is a student in full time higher education so obviously that has some weight. I imagine though that each case is evaluated individually and if the specialists feel that it is effecting your mental health as a result of low self-esteem or that you may have dental problems incurring even higher expense and problems in later life that it would be worth going for it now. You'll have to speak to your dentist about it, really, and they will be able to refer you either privately or on the NHS as they see fit.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    briggi wrote:
    My pal had a brace fitted on her top teeth this summer (aged 22) and last month had the bottom brace fixed on. They will be staying on 'til next summer when she will be having her jaw broken and rewired apparently -- her teeth aren't even particularly bad so I was pretty shocked when she told me of her plans. But she [and her dentist] feel that they will only get worse with age and she feels like it's worth having a couple of years of mild discomfort and aesthetic disadvantage in her twenties rather than looking a state when she gets older as she imagines she will.

    That was all information surplus to requirements. She is having hers done on the NHS, though she is a student in full time higher education so obviously that has some weight. I imagine though that each case is evaluated individually and if the specialists feel that it is effecting your mental health as a result of low self-esteem or that you may have dental problems incurring even higher expense and problems in later life that it would be worth going for it now. You'll have to speak to your dentist about it, really, and they will be able to refer you either privately or on the NHS as they see fit.


    That's basucally the same with me Briggi, I should be having surgery in February. Looking at me you wouldn't be able to tell much was wrong. I've had my braces on for about a year now, all in preperation for surgery, they currently are making my bit worse so when they put it right the full benefits are felt and made.

    As I said I payed for the Braces but am not paying for sugery as it's about 10 grand or more.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'd love a brace as my teeth aren't as straight as I'd like them to be but I think the price has put me off.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    icey wrote:
    Surely braces at this age wont make much difference though will they? i thought the whole point of having them when you are young is that your teeth are still growing and have not had chance to settle in yet?

    Your teeth can move as you get older and the wisdom teeth start coming out.

    I had 4 teeth removed when I was young cos they'd be over crowded otherwise and was right thing to do, and then had braces to straighten up my top teeth. Although now on one side you can see they've moved as my wisdom teeth have come through and shifted all the other teeth along.

    Tom cruise recently had braces put on about a year or two ago.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Funnily enough my dentist had braces not long ago and he's late 30's, anyone can have them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    briggi wrote:
    My pal had a brace fitted on her top teeth this summer (aged 22) and last month had the bottom brace fixed on. They will be staying on 'til next summer when she will be having her jaw broken and rewired apparently -- her teeth aren't even particularly bad so I was pretty shocked when she told me of her plans. But she [and her dentist] feel that they will only get worse with age and she feels like it's worth having a couple of years of mild discomfort and aesthetic disadvantage in her twenties rather than looking a state when she gets older as she imagines she will.

    That was all information surplus to requirements. She is having hers done on the NHS, though she is a student in full time higher education so obviously that has some weight. I imagine though that each case is evaluated individually and if the specialists feel that it is effecting your mental health as a result of low self-esteem or that you may have dental problems incurring even higher expense and problems in later life that it would be worth going for it now. You'll have to speak to your dentist about it, really, and they will be able to refer you either privately or on the NHS as they see fit.

    My sister had this done when she ws 18, she was still in full-time education then, so it was obviously free. I remeber her coming out of hospital with swollen hamster cheeks and having to eat sloppy food for ages....oooh and talking to us by writing on pads cos she couldn't speak, seemed very painful! :crying:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    For me, braces are a living hell. I'd have them removed any second if it wasn't for my teeth. :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    How about the clear braces?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    For me, braces are a living hell. I'd have them removed any second if it wasn't for my teeth. :(

    How come? I've had mine for over a year and they are great! After one week of them in they have become totally 'normal' to me. They never hurt or anything like that, but I guess if you have recently had them, each adjustment the ortho makes for the first few times can be painfull for the first few days...

    I mean mine are also bareley noticable anyway, it's not like they are huge, braces have come along way over the years.

    And my_name you are talking about the invisilign braces. Whilst 'invisible' they are harder to adjust and harder to get used to so I hear. There are on the backs of the teeth instead of the front, with some modifications...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh I had no idea. I thought they were just like guards... or a concept similar. Ouch. My thoughts on them have changed.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    briggi wrote:
    My pal had a brace fitted on her top teeth this summer (aged 22) and last month had the bottom brace fixed on. They will be staying on 'til next summer when she will be having her jaw broken and rewired apparently -- her teeth aren't even particularly bad so I was pretty shocked when she told me of her plans. But she [and her dentist] feel that they will only get worse with age and she feels like it's worth having a couple of years of mild discomfort and aesthetic disadvantage in her twenties rather than looking a state when she gets older as she imagines she will.

    That was all information surplus to requirements. She is having hers done on the NHS, though she is a student in full time higher education so obviously that has some weight. I imagine though that each case is evaluated individually and if the specialists feel that it is effecting your mental health as a result of low self-esteem or that you may have dental problems incurring even higher expense and problems in later life that it would be worth going for it now. You'll have to speak to your dentist about it, really, and they will be able to refer you either privately or on the NHS as they see fit.

    Jaw breaking, why? :eek2:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jaw breaking, why? :eek2:

    Usually because the jaw is in an incorrect posistion or it has formed incorrectly, leaving some people with a smaller lower jaw, or bigger upper jaw, or a combination.

    The most common occurances are 'Underbites' which leave the person with the bottom teeth protruding out from under the top teeth...

    and 'Overbites' which are the opporsite

    and also 'Crossbites' where the teeth can overlap, imagine forcing your jaw to the side, although it's usually not painful.

    An Orthodontist is always seen and braces are always worn before someone can have surgery, if a bite cannot be fixed with Orthodonticts alone then it is time to see an Orthognathic surgeon.

    All of this is more common than one would think, unfortunetly I myself am in this situation. Sometime in February I will be having surgery to correct an underbite and crossbite and also some assymetry. This will involve moving the upper jaw forward 8mm or so and the lower back only a few mm, with also some rotation on the lower jaw too. And a Genioplaty if it is felt needed.
    This will require the Jaw being 'wired' shut for 6 WEEKS!!! and only soft liquidized food to be eaten! So recovery is the worst part!

    Now you might think wow this guy must look messed up! But the truth Is you would hardly tell anything was wrong.

    For anyone looking for further information and advice then these links are well worth a look...

    http://www.archwired.com/phpbb2/index.php

    and also

    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/orthognathicsurgerysupport/

    which shows some great pics of before and after jaw surgery.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nash wrote:
    Usually because the jaw is in an incorrect posistion or it has formed incorrectly, leaving some people with a smaller lower jaw, or bigger upper jaw, or a combination.

    The most common occurances are 'Underbites' which leave the person with the bottom teeth protruding out from under the top teeth...

    and 'Overbites' which are the opporsite

    and also 'Crossbites' where the teeth can overlap, imagine forcing your jaw to the side, although it's usually not painful.

    An Orthodontist is always seen and braces are always worn before someone can have surgery, if a bite cannot be fixed with Orthodonticts alone then it is time to see an Orthognathic surgeon.

    All of this is more common than one would think, unfortunetly I myself am in this situation. Sometime in February I will be having surgery to correct an underbite and crossbite and also some assymetry. This will involve moving the upper jaw forward 8mm or so and the lower back only a few mm, with also some rotation on the lower jaw too. And a Genioplaty if it is felt needed.
    This will require the Jaw being 'wired' shut for 6 WEEKS!!! and only soft liquidized food to be eaten! So recovery is the worst part!

    Now you might think wow this guy must look messed up! But the truth Is you would hardly tell anything was wrong.

    For anyone looking for further information and advice then these links are well worth a look...

    http://www.archwired.com/phpbb2/index.php

    and also

    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/orthognathicsurgerysupport/

    which shows some great pics of before and after jaw surgery.

    Wow, The thought of that makes me cringe!

    I want one though!!
    Got an appointment coming up soon, hopefully I won't pass out, when they tell me how much they cost! :chin:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Wow, The thought of that makes me cringe!

    I want one though!!
    Got an appointment coming up soon, hopefully I won't pass out, when they tell me how much they cost! :chin:

    Well I know for a fact you can have braces on the NHS for free, I'm just unsure how it works.

    I believe any private Ortho will charge over 3 grand.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You can get braces on the NHS for free, but whether or not you qualify depends on the state of your teeth.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You can get braces on the NHS for free, but whether or not you qualify depends on the state of your teeth.


    I read somewhere if you get mouth ulsers and things you may be able to get one.

    So hopefully they should give me one :yippe:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I read somewhere if you get mouth ulsers and things you may be able to get one.

    So hopefully they should give me one :yippe:

    Just tell them it's affecting your self confidence and mental health, that's nearly always a winner.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nash wrote:
    Just tell them it's affecting your self confidence and mental health, that's nearly always a winner.

    :) Thanks for your help! I'll try a bit of that too!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    this might help...

    http://www.dentalhealth.org.uk/faqs/leafletdetail.php?LeafletID=29

    I too want braces, and i feel cheated that i was never offered them as a child or teenager when my teeth and bite are clearly not straight.

    Im saving up for mine
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    IIRC that won't make a lot of difference (but it's worth a shot I guess). There are measurements and guidelines for what does and what doesn't qualify.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blah wrote:
    this might help...

    http://www.dentalhealth.org.uk/faqs/leafletdetail.php?LeafletID=29

    I too want braces, and i feel cheated that i was never offered them as a child or teenager when my teeth and bite are clearly not straight.

    Im saving up for mine

    I know where you are coming from as I can't remember a time where I was offered braces as a youngter. Only very late teens did the topic arise.

    Have you seen an Ortho yet so you know what treatment plan would be instore?

    If your bite is truly out of line then other methods can be carried out as sometimes braces alone cannot correct a bite over a certain extent, but will always correct the straightness of your teeth.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I had a brace from the age of 12 to the age of 17 and althoufh it worked at the time my teeth have kind of moved from being straight again now 2 years on. It was uncomfortable at the time but i was happy with the result, not too sure now though as i had a lot of bullying and was unable to eat a lot of foods so all i can remeber from teenage years was getting taunted for wearing one.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    becky4131 wrote:
    I had a brace from the age of 12 to the age of 17 and althoufh it worked at the time my teeth have kind of moved from being straight again now 2 years on. It was uncomfortable at the time but i was happy with the result, not too sure now though as i had a lot of bullying and was unable to eat a lot of foods so all i can remeber from teenage years was getting taunted for wearing one.

    Were you not given a retainer to wear at night to prevent the teeth from moving? I was told that it's best to wear one for the rest of your life, which is nothing hard when you're asleep I guess.
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