here is a lyer in action (u all wanted proof didnt u?)

Former Member · September 2001

ok, that girl i was tellin u about, who was lyin to me all that time, the one from the site. Well her nick is Tigerlilly ok, and i got conversations to actually prove wat a hurtful, lying person she ws to me 4 a month. this person is, very nasty.
Just read these conversations.ok?

Former Member · September 2001

actually il give the conversaations to those who want them. il b zipping them up shortly.
THis is to show people what a cheater is like, and i aint letting her get away wif it.

Former Member · September 2001

if u wan them, give me ur email and il send them to u.

Former Member · September 2001

I'm really sorry you got hurt so badly, i hope you're ok...
if not mail me if u want some1 to just chat to!
Love n hugs!
xxxxx

Former Member · September 2001

here is one to show as a taster. Never give out your password or credit card number in an instant message conversation.

Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
hi
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
hiya
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
lol
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
how r u?
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
im ok
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i ad a shit day 2day
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
tht terrorist thing is well bad thgough innit?
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
yep
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
how r u?
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
my m8s aunties in washington
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
& he dnt know if shes still alive
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
lets hope she is
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:

Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
r u gonna pray 4 her?

Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i think u should
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
yep
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
good good
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
ive bin 2 his house 2nite 2 c how he is
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
kool
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:

Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i applied 4 tht job btw
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i doubt il get it though
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
gud luck
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
i hope u do
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
if u want it that is
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
well if i do, itl mean we neva chat agin
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:

Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
but im sure ul find sum1
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
ooo thnx
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
well i u never want 2 talk 2 me again
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i dnt want to take it 4 tht reason thoguh
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
bye
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
wat?
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
just cause i get the kob dnt mean i have to take it
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
job
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
u sed u wanted the job if it meant ud neva ave 2 speak 2 me again
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i just put the app for min 2day
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
u still sed u never wana talk 2 me again
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
u really think i wanna b disconnected from u
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
?
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
well the way things ave bin goin l8ly i dunno
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i dont think il take it now
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
after it seems il b losing someone deerest 2 me

Former Member · September 2001

Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
if u want it take it dnt let me stop u
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
im too involved wif u now
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
its too l8 to simply try and turn my feelins off
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
and i know u feel the same about me
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
i do
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
but if ull b happy takin this job then i want u 2 take it
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
its not just me
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i see u as a part of my life noe
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
w
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
soz if tht sounds scarey
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i know it does
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
but i gave u my heart
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
& i gave u mine in return
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
and i wanna keep urs, and i want u to keep mine
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
and i will
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
and ul keep mine
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
yep
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
rachel, ur like the only thing (thoguht) on my mind now
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
im not obessed wif u dnt woz
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
ll
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
lol
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
lol
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
& im obsessed wiv u
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
& only u
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i love you
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
and i cnyt wait to get tht letter
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:

Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:

Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
wen u do write, if u do
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
??
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
i already ave gotta get a stamp 2moz lol
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
lol soz babe
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
u know, i want it work 4 us
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i want there to b a "us"

Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
ur like wat keeps me going at work cutes
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
awwwwwwww thats sooo sweet
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
and if it meant to keep u, i would 4get the kfc job
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
cause its obvious we dnt like being seperated
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
ure wot keeps me goin at school i think i gotta concentrate on my wrk so john will b proud of me
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
thts th spirit cutes
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i mean if we were walking 2gether hands held 2gehter
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
and sum1 sperated us 2, we would be devestated
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
cause its like ripping 1 into 2
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
yeah i know
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
there r a 101 things i could think about u
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
but wen i actually talk to u, i neva tell u them
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
cause i just get all these things in the way
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
mental blocks
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
awwwww, im cold cutes
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
i wish i cud keep u warm
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i know u cud
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:

Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
i dnt wana lose u, i know ive sed soo many times
Dark Wingly Lloyd says:
ive neva been this mad ova a gal b4
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
awwwwwww thats soooooooo sweet
Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol!! says:
ive never felt like this about a guy b4 eitha

now that is deep enuf 4 leading a guy on, who really liked her.

Former Member · September 2001

thnax angel, do u want the convos?

Former Member · September 2001

do u mean loyd from legend of dragoon? if so let me know i like people who apreciate the finer points of rpgs

Former Member · September 2001

yeah Lloyd rules dont he. Email me if u want, & il send the convos. all 15 of them, just as a l9il incentive incase i did find out she was doing this.

Former Member · September 2001

soz i worded that wrong. BTW karla im not lying ok, so please dont delete my topic. THis is hard evidence.

Time if advancing slowly, feels like crap.

Love advancing slowly, feels like a eternity diviness.

Time advancing fast, feels great.

Love advancing fast feels like an eternity of nothingless.

Either way ur screwed.

Former Member · September 2001

she said all those really nice things and didn't mean any of them!? Are you sure.... cos i didn't know anyone could say so many lies @ once. Maybe she did mean what she said.....
xxxxxA

Former Member · September 2001

no she admited that she was lying to me 2day.
and she called me mental, and accused me of 4cing her to cyber wif me, i would neva do that to a girl, i felt like i was in love wif her, even if she was fro mthe net and id neva met her i wanted to though

Former Member · September 2001

ok now i want MY say in this seen as john wants 2 talk about me in this way i want 2 tell u my side of the story!
ok well 1stly i got 2 know him off the net from this site infact coz i felt really sorry 4 him bcoz of a topic he wrote AGES ago, secondly i got 2 know him as a m8 & i thought he was really sweet n evrythin but i stil got on wiv my life, the more i talked 2 him the more he seemed obsessed then 1 day he told my that he had wanked over me!! which totally freaked me out then he was writin sum rite weird stuff & scarin me 2 death, wen i showed my best frend wot he had wrote 2 me she sed he was probally sum 40yo freak & 2 avoid him but i thought no ill give him a second chance so i did & then things went bk 2 normal then he was sayin how depressed he was etc & wished he was dead etc & then wen he started blurtin out his feelins 2 me i just thought go along with it & evrythin will b ok but then it got worse & the next thing i know he wants 2 ring me which freaked me out but eventually after him persuadin me i let him, then he sed he wanted 2 meet me & told all his family about me etc (i live miles away from him& dnt meet people off the net) so i thought i shud try distancin myself from him subtley which i thought was workin but then i realised it went wrong wen he sent me an email sayin & i quote:Could it be the way she cares?
Or is it the way she makes me stare?
Mayb it could b that we r a purfect pair?
I just may neva know.

I know she thinks im daft.
But we do have a nice laff.

Could it be the way she makes me giggle?
Or is it the sexy way she makes my willy dribble?
I may neva know.

i mean how can he say those things wen hes never met me b4 he hadnt got a clue about me he didnt know nethin about me but he says all these things which really scared me probally bcoz i was almost raped 6 moths ago which was VERY scary!!!i mean its ok b m8s wiv sum1 via the net or chattin 2 sum1 but theres a line u dnt cross & he crossed it & scared the life out of me then 2day he had ago at me & was callin me a slut etc which i cud take but then he sed & again i quote
"i betall that stuff about ure nan dyin in hospital is shit just so u can get attention"
HOW THE HELL CUD HE SAY THAT!! i was upset & i told him y & then wen we ave an argument he says that & 2 make matters worse my nan passed away last nite so that upset me even more!!
every gal that talks 2 john just b careful im not sayin dnt talk 2 him coz its ure choice but ive made my mistake & i know not 2 do it again whereas alot of u aint im sorry if ive bin babblin on but i just had 2 tell u my side off evrythin
to u john!- u h8 me now & thats ure choice but all i wanted was a friendship but obviously u cudnt give me that so this is gudbye from me i wish u all the best in ure life & i hope u get that job u want & i hope u get helen bcoz i know u love her deep down shes the 1 4 u i know it sumhow!?!

so now its up 2 all of u wot u think of me so if u all h8 me i will leave the site
luv
rach aka tigerlilly
xxxx

If u have a good soul u can make sum1 happy!! If u can make sum1 happy ure a good person & a good friend!

Former Member · September 2001

well u still lyed to me from day one, ok, that is the reality, i wasnt obsessed wif u attal, actuall u were the one who was comming onto me, so dont lie about it. Everything u have sed to me has been one big lie from the start rachel, so y dont u get ur stupid facts straight, and that poem i wrote was a way of me trying to b romantic. Er do i really sound like a 40yo comeone u just got that number from me cause of wat i was saying about my work. i couldnt even be bothered to read the rest of ur last post cause it was just simply not worth it, and whats more ur not worth it, i mayb a guy from the net but i ave feelins too u know and u just took liberties wif me. Ok im 16 yeah, i dont know how im going to prove it but il find a way. I am not mental like rachel seys, if i am mental it is cause she had made me that way, i felt gr8 until she came along.

people like rachel are the reason i made that really nasty topic, cause its people like her who just make me more and more depressed all the time, and basically i just cant trust another girl ever again amd thus i just want to b single 4 all my life now

And if any1 wants the convos there still here on a zip file waiting 4 u.

Thankyou.

Girl-From-Mars · September 2001

nah i think you're the freaky one here mate. pasting all your conversations with girls you have... ZIPPING them all and offering to send them to people... why?! you're weird.

you come on here all depressed and say youre worried about "going gay", you swing between saying stuff like that and then saying things like you said to tigerlilly, and then just mad stuff baout how all girls are bitches. did you ever stop to consider it might be something to do with you???

tigerlilly, dont leave thesite, dont let him get to you, he's just a silly pathetic child. 16? more like 13 i reckon.

so much more i could say about this but i just cant be bothered, HE isnt worth it.

Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.

Former Member · September 2001

well i am 16 and she is the one who led me on, 4 a month, if im wierd its cause she made me like it ok? i never felt so bad in my whole life until she came along.
She is the prime xample of a lying manipulative, slag. simply put.
And since ur all going to listen to her im going to leave, cause it just goes to show that all the girls here are just like "tigerlilly" and "girl from mars", and u 2 people have just reinforeced what i have just said. Ok if im a sicko for being nasty then i admit it, thats cause of rachel. SHe is the one who is sick for leading me on, i only wish i has the first conversations to show how she was comming onto me and i was resisting her. I just only wish there was some decent girls out there instead of jusy ones looking to mess sum1 up.

so bye. heres another conversation to prove my point.

Former Member · September 2001

John you are an absolute prick, i know rach didnt say any of those things that u say there in that convo, she told me herself and i will believe her over u anytime. you are just a very sad little individual who likes to tell lies to make u look like your in the right when u just make yourself look worse

Former Member · September 2001

so u think im making the conversations up then? hmmmm, er wrong u r im afraid, ive 15 other ones if u wanna see them.

Former Member · September 2001

NO i aint wrong by a long way, i reacon that u are that sad that u made them up by typein up a false convo on word and then copy and pastin it, i know rach and if she says she never said those things then i am opn her side

Former Member · September 2001

i think the phrase is "like we give a shit"

your problem, not ours

im sure if she spoke to someone else they would form their own opinions of her, don't need you to do that for them

get over it

Former Member · September 2001

john!!! i dont know how u can accuse rach of lyin about her nan been i'll, i dont know how u can say all that stuff about wankin off over her when u dont know her, i think your sick in the head and maybe u shud of took your chance of killin yaself!!!!!

Former Member · September 2001

wiggy you're out of order.

but like ad infinitum said, we dont really give a shit.

Former Member · September 2001

Hey John and Rach, im not taking sides, but i think both of u should try and talk to each other, even if it's to say that u don't want to spk to each other eva again. But im sure niether of u really wants this argument posted all over here, and us guys who have alreday posted replies on here can't do anything to help either of u. So it's prob best u keep this missunderstanding (which is obviously what it is) between you's 2s.
Love n hugs
Naomi xx

Former Member · September 2001

Hello John

I spoke to u on msn not long ago and I tried to help you,
its not right to have feelings like that for some1 you have never met,
Ive been at rachels house numerous times when you have a convo with her,
and whenever she wont go along with ur obsessed 'I love you''s, u get annoyed with her and say a lot of hurtful things.
What you said about her nan is unforgivable...You say girls are evil?
Maybe you should read through ur convos again?

On your last post about hating girls, some1 said they had spoken to you and tried to help but you had apparantly just thrown it back in her face....which i believe as u did it to me!

After the way u spoke to me (saying i was evil....etc etc) I dont hate you as you think every1 does BUT i do pity you.
You need to sort these feelings out.
Talk to some1, a friend, a relative.... a doctor???

Please John, for your own sake, do something about it!
The other day you told me u were leaving thesite because..in ur own words- 'a load of sad teenagers cant help me'...why are you now back again?
Slagging my best friend off who has never done anything but try to befriend and help you?
The only reason ur leaving is because people arent on ur side....maybe u should think about why that is...perhaps YOU are the one in the wrong!!!!

Former Member · September 2001

but i got an idea, if u choose not to kill yaself then maybe u shud become a monk. hahahahaha. im sure that wud be a fitting job for u

Former Member · September 2001

Originally posted by Johntrevy:

And since ur all going to listen to her im going to leave, cause it just goes to show that all the girls here are just like "tigerlilly" and "girl from mars", and u 2 people have just reinforeced what i have just said.

Personally, I find that statement offensive, if somebody told me that he'd masturbated over me, I'd be freaked out.
I am not a lying, manipulative slag, I don't lead people on, I don't set out to hurt people. If you don't believe me then read some of my previous posts, how can you tar everyone with the same brush?
The thing you have to understand is that you knew her over the internet, I know guys in America who're really lovely, but I never plan on going out with them because the internet and real life are two different things.
I'd be freaked out if somebody told me they were obsessed with me. Especially if they planned on phoning me, it sounds creepy.

Ok if im a sicko for being nasty then i admit it, thats cause of rachel.

Maybe you didn't intend on what you typed to sound sick, but in my honest opinion John, it would have scared me and I'm a difficult person to scare.
I'm not taking sides, I don't believe that either you or Tigerlilly are bad people, just human.
One thing I am concerned about is your current headstate, are you in therapy or on any medication?
I don't mean that in a derrogatory sense, I'm in therapy and on medication, but I mean maybe therapy could help you to communicate better.

If you want somebody to talk to, my MSN is captain_spanner@hotmail.com

So with one hand on the wheel
The other out the window
With a smile on my face
My middle finger up...

Former Member · September 2001

Wiggy, lay off the guy - it seems to me that his emotions are extremely fragile and that he has a naturally obsessive personality.

John - I think it would help if you spoke to someone about this - a counsellor, The Samaritans - someone like that. Cos this "relationship" is obviously in your head. If Tigerlilly did lead you on, that was wrong, but i still think you need help. I hope this all works out ok.

Wanna grow, grow up to be, be a debaser!

Former Member · September 2001

Calm down people
TheSite is not a place for slanging matches, we do want to give constructive advice to people but if you just want to air personal vendettas and not listen to any advice we give we will have to keep closing posts.
Try to keep TheSite a nice place to visit.
Thanks
Susie <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif">

here is a lyer in action (u all wanted proof didnt u?)

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