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Religious schools may have to offer at least 25% of their classroom places to "non-believing children."
How is this going to work? Are non-Muslim parents really going to send their kids to a Muslim school? (Where the school uniform normally includes a headscarf that all pupils must wear). Are Catholic parents going to send their kids to a Jewish school?
And why would 'non-believing' parents want to send their kids to a religious school? - Other than the fact that they are perceived as better? It's surely unacceptable meanwhile to spoon-feed kids religious dogma just because they might get better grades...
In France if you want your kids to get a Catholic education for example you send them to a private school affiliated to the Catholic Church. I'm not sure why we can't do the same. In Britain we have the situation where everybody's taxes can end up funding divisive religious schools sometimes promoting backward ideas...
France and the US grasped the concept of a separation between religion and State many, many years ago. Why can't Britain?
How is this going to work? Are non-Muslim parents really going to send their kids to a Muslim school? (Where the school uniform normally includes a headscarf that all pupils must wear). Are Catholic parents going to send their kids to a Jewish school?
And why would 'non-believing' parents want to send their kids to a religious school? - Other than the fact that they are perceived as better? It's surely unacceptable meanwhile to spoon-feed kids religious dogma just because they might get better grades...In France if you want your kids to get a Catholic education for example you send them to a private school affiliated to the Catholic Church. I'm not sure why we can't do the same. In Britain we have the situation where everybody's taxes can end up funding divisive religious schools sometimes promoting backward ideas...
France and the US grasped the concept of a separation between religion and State many, many years ago. Why can't Britain?
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That doesn't mean separate schools for particular religious denominations should get state funding.
I don't think religous schools should get state funding either. However I was answering your question about the separation of church and state in Britain.
Erm... why not?
Do they need another reason then?
Because of a little thing called the "Church of England".
Oh, oops, sorry. I'm tired...
I think Charles has hinted about reform of it.
Tbh though given the pretty secular nature of many C of E schools and that they are generally as diverse as any non-religious state school they don't concern me that greatly.
Evangelical Christian schools are a bigger concern and Muslim/Jewish/Hindu schools are a lot more 'religious' than a typical C of E school and much less diverse.
They won't.
How about making non-religious state schools better rather than subsidising religious superstition?
Its disestablishment is overdue.
We'll let inbreeding do that for us.
They do.
Subsidising?
And replace them with what?
Support for the monarchy is still pretty solid. I can't really see any benefit to abolishing it. The Queen is a good ambassador for Britain and makes a good symbolic Head of State. I can't really see any benefit to having an elected Head of State doing what the Queen presently does.
Anyway ending funding for various religious agendas does not mean we should 'get rid of the royals.'
Few Christians (Jewish, Hindu or atheist parents) would feel comfortable about sending their kids to a Muslim school...
The State is funding religious schools...
Yes, but why?
Considering that Muslims have sent their children to other relious school for decades...
Isn't it more the other way around?
They don't need replacing with anything.
You reckon?
It does as they mean that church and state are not seperate.
So to get back on it, there's no way I send my children to a Muslim school (or Catholic or Anglican come to that). If anyone's going to indoctrinate them its going to me and the wife.
If others want to send them that's fine by me, same as I don't mind other sending their kids to private school. And if that religous school wants to teach the kids about one faith - that's fine by me as well, as long as parents aren't forced into sending their kids their.