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What is "English Self-Government" about?
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I read an article on the internet about England wanting self governance though, how would it work as the laws this proposed self government would make would effect Wales, technically it would not be a self-overnment would it?
I also read on the internet and in a few Wales newspapers that Wales is to have law making powers in the form of "Orders-in-council", what are these?
I also read on the internet and in a few Wales newspapers that Wales is to have law making powers in the form of "Orders-in-council", what are these?
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I forgot about that, I will head there now.
basically the West Lothian problem is an attack on the inherent unfairness of Scottish MPs being allowed to vote in Westminster on matters that solely affect England and Wales, without English and Welsh MPs being allowed to vote on matters in Scotland. Take university education- this is devolved to Scotland, and the Scottish parliament has decided to not have top-up fees. Top-up fees solely apply in England and Wales. This was decided in Westminster on a narrow majority, and this law would not have been passed at all if the votes cast by MPs representing Scottish constituencies had not counted.
Wales has a form of self-government, but the Welsh Assembly is little more than a talking shop.
Regioonal devolution was also planned, but this has gone by the wayside since the people of the North East voted against it for their area. Not that we don't have an assembly of course- we voted against an elected assembly, so obviously Blair decided this meant we wanted an unelected one instead!
Even though this time next year the Welsh Assembly will have more powers and more work to do rather than talk, I support what you say, that this is actually a problem. The student tuition fees though are now under the Welsh Assembly in Wales, though that was due to the act being passed also.
Would this argument appear again in the future if the National Assembly gets full law making powers and other responsibilities?
Though I am assuming thats too fair and too "Written Constitution" for Blair.
I think that a "federal" structure is the only way forward for Britain, so we have a British Federal Parliament, with devolved assemblies (all with the same powers and status) for Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland, The Isle of Man, Gibraltar, etc...
That doesn't mean there can't be some form of all-England government, but in order for devolution to work effectively decisions and spending will have to be on a regional level.
Oh and it also means more even more politicans and bureaucrats. :yuck: