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I don't think anyone should be refused medical treatment but he can get it elsewhere.
But if you were a member of staff at that hospital, would you really treat a man who was sending photos like that?
justified deifnetly, he abused staff, the hospital responds in kind
if he gets really ill theyll treat him, but otherwise he not allowed on their premises
If he requires life saving treatment, he will get it. However, hospitals have a duty of care to their staff as well as their patients, and they have a right to work in an environment where they aren't subjected to such harrassment.
A pro-'lifer' totally and utterly missing the point? Heavens no!
Yeah, I agree.
I do, of course, believe in care and treatment for all, but sending such material definitely classifies as threatening behaviour in my book and while it can be said he has a right to treatment, the staff also have a right to a work environment free from harassment. I think it's nothing but a good thing that the hospital has the right to refuse him entry and treatment, and as they've said they wouldn't refuse him emergency life-saving care.
As KHSS said, why should the staff at a hospital be subject to protection and consideration of a lesser degree than employees at any other company. I don't think they should be at all, and I think the hospital is right on. :thumb:
I actually think he's got a brass neck to behave in such a manner and then rock up expecting [so I believe] to be treated, though my opinion probably isn't completely objective either..
Everybody has a right to treatment, even harrassing idiots like this man.
If the hospital has arranged for treatment at another nearby place without causing delay to the patient and arranging transportation for him, then fair enough. But if they have simply told him ''sorry mate, you're not welcome here, go elsewhere'' that is not acceptable in my view.
I would treat him if I was one of the affected doctor/nurses... though I would take the opportunity to deliver a few home truths while he's in my care.
Would be very difficult of you to do so. The GMC's Duties of a Doctor outlines that patient's views should be respected. Had this gentleman (although I use the term loosely) been allowed to have his treatment at the hospital, one issue (i.e. his views on abortion) would have nothing to do with the other (his surgery), and it wouldn't come up in conversation, not with me anyway, I wouldn't allow dialogue to progress. The hospital as a whole would deal with the fact that he has been harrassing people, not me, so it wouldn't be my place to say anything. Not to mention I'd imagine the UK LL would delight in being trigger happy with complaints etc
I personally couldn't treat anyone who offended me in that way.
Sadly, it's not a case of picking and choosing
But this isn't a case of doctors themselves withholding treatment, its the hospital trust as a whole taking on their zero tolerance policy on harrassment, which staff members have a right to be free of in a hospital environment.
Hopefully teach these terrorists a lesson.
fair deal to them
It's very difficult to reason with the unreasonable. Pro-'lifers' I've ever encountered find it very difficult to answer questions about illegal abortion, because a lot of them believe that as long as it isn't on their backdoor, they don't really care what happens to the women.
The slightly saner antis at least loathe the terrorism associated with them when it comes to shooting doctors/nurses, but judging this guy is being pimped by the UKLL, I'd doubt it...
I'd imagine if people sent UKLL, LIFE etc links to pictures of dead women from illegal abortion, not only would it be harassment of the highest order, they'd be filing lawsuits.
Oh, and if you check out UKLL's website, they ought to stop with harassment themselves, especially the links with a doctor's telephone number in it.
Unless you read a totally different article, he had actually sent those photos to people who work in administration regarding general enquiries. Best be on the safe side though, eh?
source: Independent.
Of? A secretary in general hospital administration and her direct role in abortion care? :chin:
I find orthopaedic surgery very disturbing with all that drilling. For those reasons alone, I don't think it should be carried out either. Or anything with eyes, too icky. Or colons. In fact, ban all surgery, it's too disturbing! Oh, the humanity!
Yes, if the world went down the rabbit hole and turned totally on its head. By that token, I could send abusive things to Westminster Council because I'm 'harassed' by the 'idea' of the amount of Council Tax they charge. Or because I find the 'idea' of running on the treadmill disturbing, that gives me the right to harass those who work for gyms. Seriously J, at least pick an argument which holds, that was embarrassing.
As does a lot of major surgery with me. So? It's moot, and doesn't give one the right to harass others.
I still would treat him if I had to... but he was going to have to put up with a few pictures of my own (not to mention lectures) for as long as he was in my care.