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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
my bro has been an addict 4 7 years and its destroying him would it be safer for him to give it all up or does his body need it now hes addicted ?
he is also a big drinker and it makes him violent please help
im turning out da same way but im more concerned about getting my brother clean thnx if u got this far and if u did plz help xx

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Would help to know what he is addicted too.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    depends on the drug tbh and how strong he is as a person. It also depends on whether he actually WANTS to give up. Unfortunatly you really cant force people before theyre ready - it just never works :(.
    I dont think theres many drugs that would just kill you for going cold turkey, but it would feel like shit for him obviously and theres also much more to addiction than just getting the drug out of your system.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    my bro has been an addict 4 7 years and its destroying him would it be safer for him to give it all up or does his body need it now hes addicted ?
    he is also a big drinker and it makes him violent please help
    im turning out da same way but im more concerned about getting my brother clean thnx if u got this far and if u did plz help xx
    been an addict for 47 years?
    he'd be as well carrying on but ...if he wants off he can do it without harm if it's heroin.
    if it's valium or similar it can be life threatening.
    give us more details if you can.

    wants he isn't addicted ...his body won't need it.
    does he want to give up?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    been an addict for 47 years?
    he'd be as well carrying on but ...if he wants off he can do it without harm if it's heroin.
    if it's valium or similar it can be life threatening.
    give us more details if you can.

    wants he isn't addicted ...his body won't need it.
    does he want to give up?

    I think she meant "4 7 years" = "for 7 years" as she seem to use text talk a lot
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    my bro has been an addict 4 7 years and its destroying him would it be safer for him to give it all up or does his body need it now hes addicted ?

    What's he addicted to? If it's blow then he doesn't have a physical addiction just a psychological addiction and that's reversable. It also depends on how much he smokes and how often, having the odd spliff now and again isn't addiction, sitting in your room all day smoking the head off yourself is.
    he is also a big drinker and it makes him violent please help
    im turning out da same way but im more concerned about getting my brother clean thnx if u got this far and if u did plz help xx

    That's not your problem. Some people drink and get violent, some don't. Why do you think you're turning out like him? Surely if you see he has a problem you don't want to follow in his steps.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If he is an alcoholic he really shouldn't just stop one day he can get psychosis and all sorts.

    He really needs to see a specialist at a drugs and alcohol dependency service.

    Good Luck!
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    KimonoKimono Posts: 201 Trailblazer
    Your brother's addiction is destroying his body, and by the sounds of it his dependancy problems are having a pretty devastating effect on his family, too.

    An addict's body can experience traumatic withdrawal symptoms when they're trying to come clean, and often the worst part of breaking free is coming to terms with the psychological aspect of addiction. But one thing's for certain - a substance addiction is one of the last things a body needs.

    However much his addiction makes his behaviour unbearable at times, you can still show your love for him by helping him get the support he needs to beat it. It's also important that you get enough support for yourself, too.

    It's often a long and harsh road to getting clean, and how each individual deals with it is different from the next. Going to your doctor is a good starting point as they will be able to give any addict the medical help they need to getting over an addiction, as well as refer you to a specialist counsellor and local support groups.

    You haven't given a lot of detail about his addiction or how exactly you're being affected, but here are a few national helplines that can offer expert advice about what to do next:

    FRANK - Free confidential advice, information and help about drugs. Open 24 hours a day. They can refer you onto local drug services and send out free literature. Call 0800 776600

    Drinkline - Confidential telephone help, info and advice on all aspects of alcohol use and abuse. Calls are free. Tel: 0800 9178282

    Samaritans - Confidential help for anyone who is experiencing feelings of distress or despair. Call 08457 909090 or email jo@samaritans.org
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kimono wrote:
    FRANK - Free confidential advice, information and help about drugs. Open 24 hours a day. They can refer you onto local drug services and send out free literature. Call 0800 776600

    You'd be a lot better off with Release - www.release.org.uk
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kimono wrote:
    Your brother's addiction is destroying his body,
    Going to your doctor is a good starting point as they will be able to give any addict the medical help they need to getting over an addiction, as well as refer you to a specialist counsellor and local support groups.


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    how do you know his addiction is destroying his body?

    the number of GP's who know anything whatsoever about addiction is almost zero but yes ...they can pass you on to some helpful people.
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    KimonoKimono Posts: 201 Trailblazer
    Keira said in her original post that being an addict is destroying her brother. Interpret that how you will, but it's hardly news that drug addictions are harmful on many levels, including physically.

    She asked if his body 'needs' the drugs/alcohol. It doesn't take a genius to guess that the human body doesn't need it. That's not to say it can't cope with it at all, but the bottom line is that there are potentially fatal risks to certain substances, long-term use and high quantities taken.

    It's also important to remember that many addiction support services are funded by the NHS, and you may have to rely on a GP referral to get access to them - that's partly why going to your GP is a good first step.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kimono wrote:

    She asked if his body 'needs' the drugs/alcohol. It doesn't take a genius to guess that the human body doesn't need it.

    Depends on the drug. People with a physical addiction to heroin do "need" heroin, to stop the withdrawals. People with a physical addiction to benzos or alcohol need their drug even more. Quitting heroin and going cold turkey won't kill someone - doing the same with an alcohol or benzo addiction can.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kimono wrote:
    it's hardly news that drug addictions are harmful on many levels, including physically.

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    thats debatable.
    there are many documented cases of life long heroin addiction into the eighties year old.
    no damage.
    i agree seeing the doc is a good first step ...as i said ...theres a chance they will pass you on to someone who knows what they are talking about but ...very few gp's know even the basics about addiction.

    as for saying her brother was damaging himself ...i took that to be lifestyle not health but then there wasn't much in the way of detail.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    She asked if his body 'needs' the drugs/alcohol. It doesn't take a genius to guess that the human body doesn't need it. That's not to say it can't cope with it at all, but the bottom line is that there are potentially fatal risks to certain substances, long-term use and high quantities taken.

    Have to say that i am slightly worried by the ambiguity of that statement, especially from a mod. The actual substance was not revealed and Kim's post could quite easily have been read the wrong way, as Blaggy pointed out.

    Would also like to echo what Bong said, from my limited knowledge i would have to say that Release is probably a better shot than FRANK, although i agree with Kimono that your GP should be one of your first ports of call if not the first.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You could also contact Adfam
    http://www.adfam.org.uk
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think she meant "4 7 years" = "for 7 years" as she seem to use text talk a lot
    sorry i use txt speak ill try type proply in future n thnx 4 all ur help guys
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Zenie wrote:
    If he is an alcoholic he really shouldn't just stop one day he can get psychosis and all sorts.

    He really needs to see a specialist at a drugs and alcohol dependency service.

    Good Luck!
    thnx but ive tried gettin him to c ppl but he aint havin nun of it
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kimono wrote:
    Your brother's addiction is destroying his body, and by the sounds of it his dependancy problems are having a pretty devastating effect on his family, too.

    An addict's body can experience traumatic withdrawal symptoms when they're trying to come clean, and often the worst part of breaking free is coming to terms with the psychological aspect of addiction. But one thing's for certain - a substance addiction is one of the last things a body needs.

    However much his addiction makes his behaviour unbearable at times, you can still show your love for him by helping him get the support he needs to beat it. It's also important that you get enough support for yourself, too.

    It's often a long and harsh road to getting clean, and how each individual deals with it is different from the next. Going to your doctor is a good starting point as they will be able to give any addict the medical help they need to getting over an addiction, as well as refer you to a specialist counsellor and local support groups.

    You haven't given a lot of detail about his addiction or how exactly you're being affected, but here are a few national helplines that can offer expert advice about what to do next:

    FRANK - Free confidential advice, information and help about drugs. Open 24 hours a day. They can refer you onto local drug services and send out free literature. Call 0800 776600

    Drinkline - Confidential telephone help, info and advice on all aspects of alcohol use and abuse. Calls are free. Tel: 0800 9178282

    Samaritans - Confidential help for anyone who is experiencing feelings of distress or despair. Call 08457 909090 or email jo@samaritans.org
    thanx uve been a great help ur an angel xxxx
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    sorry i use txt speak ill try type proply in future n thnx 4 all ur help guys
    :banghead:
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