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sacked for gross misconduct (racial abuse) with only the word of another person or other people but no other proof? :grump:
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Its not me btw.
Political correctness gone mad
Quite.
Topic? They can be sacked, they may not be. Depends on the circumstances, policy etc. Not too sure what'll happen, to be honest.
It happens often enough, don't be so naive as to think it doesn't happen.
If someone screams racist, they are always believed ahead of the other person. Because no company wants to be found racist, they hang people out to dry.
That's how life is. It happens enough. Too many people will cry race because they know they can get someone they don't like sacked.
I'm not racist thankyou.
Are you really that thick that you wear rose tinted glasses?
Exactly. Perhaps some people live with thier heads in the clouds.
So do you believe that someone should be sacked without proof then, as this thread was about?
So whats your problem?
In my head, the bigger issue is that if employers&employees believe that black workers are likely to make false claims of racism that leads to disciplinary (sp?) action then blacks will find it even harder than they already do to get jobs in the first place- understandable as who wnts to employ someone who's 'likely' to casue hassle... Therefore my main gripe isn't against your above example of someone blatently taking the piss out of laws that are designed to protect poeple and encourage fairness, more against the ingrained mindset that hiring blacks=trouble etc.
Please accept my grovelling apoloy for swearing at you and calling you racist.
Yes white people do things wrong too but thats not what i was ranting/talking about.
You are entitled to appeal, and if you dont agree with that outcome you can take it to a tribunal.
I was sacked for gross misconduct. I beleived it to be unfair, as 2 witness statements said i didnt do it(one kept changing his mind so they didnt use his statement), and a bunch of other 'disaplinaries' on my file just showed the management themselves had been harrassing me. I beleive they wanted to get rid of me and saw a chance.
I appealed immediately with support from a Union rep and our store union rep but it didnt work.
The Union rep was very keen to take it further to an employment tribual, she too beleived it to be unfair dissmissal.
I had a meeting with an associate from the solicitors that the Union use's, but she didnt thing the case was going to be strong enough.
Why?
BECAUSE THE COMPANY HAD CORRECTLY FOLLOWED DISAPLINARY PROCEDURES
I actually said to her straight ' so they can lie, harrass and treat me unfairly and i cant do a thing about it?They've probably done it on purpose, planned the whole thing'- all she said was 'yes, i know. sorry'.
Theyre fuckers, and people go into their stores everyday doing there weekly shop!
Hmm wasn't asda was it?
hmm i know.... they do have the habit of behaving rather badly to some people.... i was lucky to of got a transfer to another store as the previous store were trying their utmost to get me fired through any means necessary due to gettin on the wrong side of a manager
I think most people think ive exaggerated or over-reacted when i try to explain what they did. Its not on.