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BNP scumbags Griffin and crony found not guilty
BillieTheBot
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According to the BBC;
"A jury at Leeds Crown Court has cleared BNP leader Nick Griffin of two racial hatred charges and BNP activist Mark Collett of four others. The jury has been discharged after failing to reach verdicts on the remaining charges - four against Mr Collett and two against Mr Griffin. Mr Griffin, 44, and Mr Collett, 24, had denied using words intended to stir up hatred in West Yorkshire in 2004. Mr Griffin said the verdicts were a 'tremendous victory for freedom'."
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I'm not sure what to make of this. All I know for certain is that I'm devastated to see a mad racist like Griffin being found innocent by a court of law. If he'd been found guilty, even if there were complaints of politically correct influence, I would have welcomed the verdict. And let's also remember this on an unrelated note. Griffin likes to remind us that Jews, for instance, are thiefs and criminals. I find this a strange accusation coming from a man who leads a party that is filled with members with criminal records.
Anyway, I can already see that Aladdin is foaming at the mouth wanting to vent his understandable frustration at the verdict, so I'll give way now.
What do you all make of the news?
"A jury at Leeds Crown Court has cleared BNP leader Nick Griffin of two racial hatred charges and BNP activist Mark Collett of four others. The jury has been discharged after failing to reach verdicts on the remaining charges - four against Mr Collett and two against Mr Griffin. Mr Griffin, 44, and Mr Collett, 24, had denied using words intended to stir up hatred in West Yorkshire in 2004. Mr Griffin said the verdicts were a 'tremendous victory for freedom'."
Story - click this.
I'm not sure what to make of this. All I know for certain is that I'm devastated to see a mad racist like Griffin being found innocent by a court of law. If he'd been found guilty, even if there were complaints of politically correct influence, I would have welcomed the verdict. And let's also remember this on an unrelated note. Griffin likes to remind us that Jews, for instance, are thiefs and criminals. I find this a strange accusation coming from a man who leads a party that is filled with members with criminal records.
Anyway, I can already see that Aladdin is foaming at the mouth wanting to vent his understandable frustration at the verdict, so I'll give way now.
What do you all make of the news?
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I'm not sure on which grounds he was found innocent. These people usually make an art out of suggesting things but not quite saying them, and of walking on a tightrope on the every edge of illegality.
Have you actually paid attention to the trial? Griffin has said nothing - and i mean absolutely nothing - worthy of prosecution.
If someone isn't allowed to criticise Islam at a private meeting then we are living under nothing less than an ideological tyranny. Brilliant :rolleyes:
not quite, the references to religions imo he's perfectly allowed to make, however the comments he made about asians in general were extremely disgusting
What did he say?
im not searching atm - there was the comment about them being gang rapists etc
personally i'd rather they didn't get the news coverage though, they are about as coherant as a nonstick pan in terms of policy
He was talking about spates of gang rapes in Yorkshire perpretrated by gangs of muslims, not describing all asians as gang rapists.
As always, the truth is in the detail.
If you read a transcipt of what Griffin said, or listen to the recording itself, then it's clear what he said is perfectly acceptable.
All views should be allowed a political platform in a stable, democratic society. Arguments don't stand or fall on whether they're deemed acceptable or not, they stand or fall when brought into focus by society and actually studied.
Perhaps it's just silly me, unfairly wanting to stop vermin from spreading their filth. How intolerant of me, really...
Orchestrated disorder and violence would be the obvious result of forcing the extreme right to become sub rosa. It's a terrible idea.
On the plus side, this case will have scared them a little and they will (probably) think before they speak again.
But I dont agree with the prosocution and I especialy dont agree with a retrial, it seems to be playing into his hands, "proving" that he's being targeted.
Is this law applied fairly, I know abu Hamza's on trial but he got away with a lot more for a lot longer, are there any others who might say similer things to not on trial.
How people from the Animal Liberation Front (is it front or army?) dont get charged with inciting violence is totally beyond me, they are terrorists plain and simple.
As for claims that I won't tolerate Muslim criticism, I myself have been very critical in the last few hours about these cartoons. Yes, they are utterly offensive to Islam. But the way some people are making their feelings known - by storming the EU's buildings in Gaza is disgraceful. (and for the record, why does the EU have offices there?)
Because we give them lots of money.
Not really, its more to stop the Palestinians starving, they are having a bit of a bad time of it at the moment.
The same could be said for MP's from Northern Ireland in the past, but we kept paying their wages. Life isnt quite as simple as you seem to think.
I wouldn't agree with that.
The ideological strands of 'intellectual fascism' are still present with Griffin and company, but that more 'intellectual' side is presented sparingly as it doesn't fit with the BNP's whiter-than-white PR attempt.
John Tyndall ripped off Mosley's style and presentation bigtime before Griffin changed tac.