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Congestion charges really a good idea?
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I know London has had this for a time. Stockholm has now enforced congestion charges, which has cost the government a lot. What I fail to understand is why put such large amounts of money on that when other sources are in greater need.
Education, hospitals, you name it. The education over here (most) is poor and the hospitals even worse. I can see promises and promises by the political parties, but are they ever carried out?
They say that the amount of traffic in Stockholm will decrease by 5%.
Five billion SEK per year - £368,017,101 - is the money lost by congestion in Stockholm every year.
Quite funny though, the leading party (Social Democrats) was pressured into gaining The Greens side in the parliament.
Are you for congestion or not? How is it working in London?
Education, hospitals, you name it. The education over here (most) is poor and the hospitals even worse. I can see promises and promises by the political parties, but are they ever carried out?
They say that the amount of traffic in Stockholm will decrease by 5%.
Five billion SEK per year - £368,017,101 - is the money lost by congestion in Stockholm every year.
Quite funny though, the leading party (Social Democrats) was pressured into gaining The Greens side in the parliament.
Are you for congestion or not? How is it working in London?
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However, I use public transport anyway when I'm heading to town.
But overall, very happy with the CC. The much trumpeted traffic chaos and economic collapse has failed to materialise and Central London is cleaner, healthier and less congested for it.
Westminster meters charge upwards of £4 per hour.
Some ticket-dispensing machines now accept credit cards. That's all you need to know...
I think this is better.
All congestion charging in large zones does is keep the roads clear for the rich. Which is morally and ethically wrong.
keeping cities clean and clear for people is important, but I do find something a bit odious about making someone pay twice for the same bit of road, to be quite honest.
On balance its better than not having it, but it does mean only the poor get turfed on to the tube.
Yep, the said drivers of Chelsea tractors most of all.
Less of us plebs clogging up the road.
When you add up the expense, the inconvenience (you never know when they're going to suspend tube services due to equipment failures) and the fact that big areas of south London aren't on the tube, then yes.
Public transport is nowhere near that. A monthly 1-3 zone travelcard is around £102 or so.
The problem is people who already could afford commuting into London (i.e. spending thousands of Pounds a year in parking alone) are likely to be very wealthy and not deterred by the CC. For all I know their company pays for it.
But what the CC does is stop many casual visitors who would drive into London out of laziness to do a bit of shopping or to visit something or someone. That is rather selfish when there is a perfeclty decent public transport available.
Public transport is alright here, but doesn't really compare. Well, it should be better in London, they spend something like 3x the amount per head on it.
Good to see you agree;)
Public transport is prohibitvely expensive. It is in London, and it is even more so out of London. We have a PTE similar to TfL, and still a return to town (4 miles away) by Cuntcoach is a bargain £2.70. Two singles is a pocket-friendly £3.40. I could drive there and back ten times for that in my little Fiesta.
As for people travelling to London from here, I could drive there and back twice, pay the CC and park for the same price it would vost me, the wife and two kids by train.
Ha ha.
Whilst Transport for London are responsible for the scheme, the operation is sub contracted to an outside company. From the scheme's inception, Capita Group have been responsible for the day to day operation under a five year contract worth around £230m.
Having been threatened with the termination of the contract by the Mayor for poor performance, when the zone was extended, Capita were awarded an extension to the original contract up until February 2009 to cover the expanded zone.
my personal feelings on congestion charges and zones are just stupid what is the point of have to charge people to drive through a street then why do they put the road there in the first place.
if the goverment wants us to pay so much to pay for petrol/diesel which the prices of are going on the rise then why do they want us to pay for driving them in the first place then why do we buy cars? Why do we pay £50 of our money to pay for a fast journey? to get there quicker by 10 minutes. is it really worth it?
I ask you that question...