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Tories trying to derail 24-hour drinking bill
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4437512.stm
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I don't see what you're upset about. For once, the Opposition are doing their job.
I agree with 24-hour opening, but that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be a full vote on it.
That and some sort of test area might have been a good idea too.
Fact is only a small proportion of all pubs are applying for a licence extension.
Fact is most of those who are actually applying are only thinking of opening for an extra 2 hours a night.
Hardly the 24 hour drinking nightmare the fucking right wing press has been trying to paint.
The Tories know this full well, but they're still pressing ahead with this for purely political purposes.
And then they will go to their fucking private member clubs to have a drink and get plastered safe in the knowledge they can drink for as long as they please.
Some public service they provide!
I agree with the idea of unrestricted opening, but I don't think this law has been thought through well, and has been rushed.
It also hides something more sinister- all licensed premises will have to re-register, at a cost of about a thousand pounds a time, all going to the Treasury.
I agree with the principle, but the law is rushed and ill-thought-out. It is also hiding a cost increase to licensees by pretending to fulfil a social purpose.
The idea of 24 hour supermarkets selling booze all night is more interesting, not sure if any have applied though.
Hypocrisy is the traditional tory way - waffle on about marriage in public and have a string of affairs in private - oppose homosexuality in public while being buggered wearing bin-bags and sucking oranges at home. etc.
As for having to pay for re-registering for late hours, well seeing as they stand to make many times more than a grand in the first year alone, I don't think it is unreasonable.
The only thing the government has been guilty of is not to be more aggressive in their PR campaign and explain clearly to the public that the much trumpeted "24 hour drinking" nightmare is nothing of the sort and it is not going to happen.
No, you misread.
ALL licensees have to, regardless of whether they apply for the new laws or not.
Perhaps.
I think people have legitimate concerns though. We live opposite a pub and it DOES get rowdy at chucking out time on a Saturday night. We've had the police knocking on our door about incidents on more than one occasion. We don't mind it too much, it's just noise and swearing, and we did know about it when we moved in, but we have had some damage done to our car and I can see why older and more vulnerable people would feel frightened by it. I can also see why the same people would be terrified at the prospect that this pub could conceivably chuck out at 1am, 2am, 3am, whatever.
I think the press have a point, to be honest, there does need to be more safeguards put in. I don't think the law is as well-drafted as it should be. And we don't have a European cafe-bar drinking culture.
I do thinbk the current regimented hours cause more harm than good though, as everyone leaves everywhere at 11pm or 2am and all go to the kebab shop and taxi rank at the same time. Staggered closings would alleviate this problem.
I do think extended hours should happen though.
I need to start drinking more and getting action lke this!
Isn't this a case of "shutting the stable door"...?
Done! ;p
Like they can do anything... typical Tories. To late as usual. Bet they now all stay in the pub all night, drowning their sorrows longer as it is open 24/7.
The Tesco near me has applied for a 24 hour license. :chin:
It will be the end of civilised society as we know it :yes:
Which do you think is worse, spending £50 on drink in 4 hours, or spending it in 12? Which do you think will have the worse effect.
People only have a finite amount of cash to spend on an evening out, at the moment it's a case of drink as much as you can before the pub closes at 11pm. Under this law they will need to make their cash last longer, if they want to stay longer.
Funnily enough this law is much like those on the continent where the same binge culture doesn't exist. Why do you think that is?
Which nation is that then?
As for the rest of your post, MoK has beaten me to it.
Then why do the Northern Irish drink as much as they do, they have been allowed to drink until 2am for ages now.
It isnt anywhere near as simple as just the hours you get to drink. We have a binge culture, we dont drink with food, we drink specifically to get drunk, thats the difference.
After 87 years of being treated like children by the State, the British join the rest of the world.
Incidentally, perhaps all those who bitterly complain about Labour creating a "nanny State" and yet were against returning drinking times to civilised levels would like to think about the folly of their position.
Because, forget about ID cards, forget about campaigns asking us to eat less salt, forget about everything else: nothing could be more nanny State that telling people they are not allowed to go out drinking after 11 pm because they are not responsible enough or they have to work the following day and they need to be in top form (which is the original reason for the restrictions :rolleyes: ).
Never bothered them before, has it?
Which is kind of the point I was trying to make. It's our culture and attitude towards alcohol which is the problem, not the hours during which we can buy it.
Restricting those hours will make little or no difference.