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supplement manufacturers to be put out of business

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1691933,00.html


quite good im glad companies were told to show their products had beneficial effects :)

anyway i dont get why people buy them, you can get all you need from eating a mix of foods :) i drink more than my RDA in vitamin c in fruit juice cause i live off of it :p

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    maybe people need supplements because we have such crap diets these days, plus the fact that vitamin levels in foods have been falling steadily for decades thanks to agricultural practices involving chemicals......and if you didn't know "RDA" was originally established by finding the minimal level of a vitamin or whatever, that is needed to prevent diseases like scurvy etc.......so RDA is in fact not the optimum level of whatever it is that you should be having.......let me find some articles.....

    http://www.thenhf.com/articles_56.htm

    http://www.thenhf.com/articles_124.htm

    http://www.thenhf.com/articles_102.htm

    http://www.thenhf.com/articles_75.htm

    i don't take supplements btw, but I am worried about legislation appearing in the US to ban them, I mean what's that about......
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well instead of making short term gains we should sort out the agricultural practices in this country, and encourage people to eat a greater variety of foods ie encourage parents to do it to their little kids, as it tends to stick then...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    wheresmyplacebo wrote:
    well instead of making short term gains we should sort out the agricultural practices in this country..

    :lol: but that will never happen, because the simple fact it is not's as profitable to produce nutritional food as it is to dump chemicals on everything and ship it out.........agri-business is big business these days, and it's not just this country, it's common practice in most industrialised countries....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I can see both sides of the argument on this one.

    The Consumers Association are for this restriction because it means health food suppliers can't pass crap off as healthy and nutritious. But I do worry that companies will be put out of business because of the legislation, and that people should have the choice to buy what they want.

    I personally fall more on the side of the CA. People are free to buy what they want, but if companies want to sell things then they need to say what is in it and why, scientifically, it is good for you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I can see both sides of the argument on this one.

    Aye I can see the point about protecting fuckwits from buying mothballs to eat "because they are good for you" according to some snake oil salesmen. A bit like the myths farming has spread about milk being good for you etc.
    But I do worry that companies will be put out of business because of the legislation, and that people should have the choice to buy what they want.

    Of course they should, but a better idea might have been to set up a body to investigate every food producers products and give subjective advice against them all.
    People are free to buy what they want, but if companies want to sell things then they need to say what is in it and why, scientifically, it is good for you.

    Problem with that is who funds "scientific" research? Every quack remedy has some "Doctor" endorsing it. It's not difficult to become a doctor, you just print a certificate and get someone to sign it. Equally big buisiness is well known for fudging results, paying for slanted research etc so it's not a very good way to go IMO.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Funny thing occured to me as I woke up -

    annual deaths due to vitamins - 0

    annual deaths due to amino acids - 0#

    annual deaths due to commercial herbal products - 0

    On the other hand, what's the fatality rates of some well known drugs?

    hmmmmmm.

    So it appears that something completely harmless is being outlawed. Pathetic.

    Even if it's only the placebo effect that helps people, they should be provided. As RIchard Bandler says - "Placebos work 1 time in 7 so if you have a headache - take 8"
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