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Should our moral attitude towards animals depend on whether or not they feel pain?
How would you rate the following in terms of the likelihood of their feeling pain?
horse worm virus flea jellyfish
Should our moral attitude towards animals depend on whether or not they feel pain?
How would you rate the following in terms of the likelihood of their feeling pain?
horse worm virus flea jellyfish
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No.
100% all of em. Even metal feels pain.
ok THAT one needs an explanation.
All feeling is electrical current, all "stuff" is held together by the same. Seperate them and the result is pain.
when i think of pain, i think about how i put my hand on the stovetop burner this morning.
That's not pain, that's stupidity
No.
Given my previous answer, I'm not sure it is relevant.
Could you be more specific about moral attitude?
I wouldn't feel as bad stepping on a crustation without a central nervous system for instance as i would stepping on a cat. One feels pain, the other doesn't.
Moral attitude towards what?
An animal is an animal isn't it?
You need help.
I do hope you're not being serious
I dont approve of testing on animals.
but I am for cloning organs and the like to test on :chin:
difference morally being..?
well, if you dont have the whole lot, you wont be causing it any pain, because "it" is a non-feeling lump of flesh.
it'd be like testing stuff on a steak that was grown in a lab, that didnt even have to come from a cow :crazyeyes
But wouldnt you need stem cells to clone organs, at which point is it morally any better?
I've just recently decided that I don't really care whether animals feel pain if their suffering gives me a reasonable pleasure pay-off. Yea you guessed I've just had foie-gras for the first time.
For the ranking of creatures in likelihood of feeling pain I was perversely intending to argue that none of them feel pain (or ask you to prove otherwise), taking a philosophical turn.
No. Physics.
I agree with this. If they didn't want to be eaten they should have evolved thumbs and frontal lobes.
Not nearly as much as you do, but thanks.
I wish I hadnt learnt how that is made, its possibly the nicest thing I have ever eaten.
Me too!
Would you eat it again?
Yes, though I'd feel a bit guilty about it. I've only had it once I should point out.
It isn't unethical to kill something to eat or wear, thought it is unethical to treat it unnaturally or cruelly to make it taste "better". I believe that kosher and halal treatments are grossly unethical, for instance, as is cruelty in factory slaughterhouses.
I dont care what it intended, its completely foul and should be banned.
heres a hint: only organisms with a nervous system can feel pain. :yes:
Not that there is a nice way to kill, and I certainly wouldn't say halal was any worse than the practises used in modern slaughterhouses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal
I'd think though that these days they are carried on for reasons of cultural identity. As you say, its not really any worse than slaughterhouses.
it isnt about what sound comfortable to you, its an efficient quick way
anyway IMO i cant give a rats arse about how it was killed cause its never gona be nice unless theyre drugged up with opiates
However, I think if somebody wouldn't be able to kill an animal themselves to eat it, they're a hippocrite if they eat meat.
Pest control and medical research is a necessity aswell.