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I too read the article in the News of the World, and knowing my reply to the last post would be lost I posted a new one. I told them what I thought and why their information was a load of shit. I think this site is helpful, it has been to me and hundreds of others!
It isnt us to blame for the world's problems, it is the adults, if they tried harder to help us we wouldn't do do unprotected sex, we wouldn't make the wrong choices in life.
But they dont help, instead they criticse us and the people who help us. So well done to the site, I know I am new, but I feel strongly about this, that adults constantly look down upon us as "mistakes"
Thanx to people like Dom and Karla.
Ste
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I second that <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched - they must be felt with the heart.
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    i third it!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by RachaelHolmes:
    i fourth it!


    isnt anyone gonna add something more meaningful??? lol

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by RachaelHolmes:
    i fourth it!


    I second the fourth!



    The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched - they must be felt with the heart.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If u want to help, write to the News of The world as well. One person cant make a difference, lots of us can

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I might as well 16th it then
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Daze:
    I might as well 16th it then

    And it can't miss out on being 17th ed. So there we go hehe

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere:
    I too read the article in the News of the World, and knowing my reply to the last post would be lost I posted a new one. I told them what I thought and why their information was a load of shit. I think this site is helpful, it has been to me and hundreds of others!
    It isnt us to blame for the world's problems, it is the adults, if they tried harder to help us we wouldn't do do unprotected sex, we wouldn't make the wrong choices in life.
    Ste

    OK, can't be left out - I eighteenth it (& include the missing ones as well!)

    and

    you can't blame it on the grownups all the time lol. Every generation has to find it's own way. If parents were more strict and made more restraints the result would just be more rebellion taking you to the same level.

    People have changed, generation to generation all the way through history. I don't expect anything done by parents would change much.

    The wrong choices will always be made, they have to be, it's human nature.

    No-one is to blame.
    Originally posted by Whowhere:
    But they dont help, instead they criticse us and the people who help us. So well done to the site, I know I am new, but I feel strongly about this, that adults constantly look down upon us as "mistakes"
    Thanx to people like Dom and Karla.


    I think that this site is a very important part of alot of peoples lives, is this the first time that young adults have had the support & friendship, controvesy & discussion, fights & fun that we have here?

    You all know that I'm old, lol <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/frown.gif"&gt; , this forum has given me the chance to see what problems and anxieties my children are going to come up against in a few years time.

    It has also given me the chance to burn off steam & to try to help people by relating to my experiences of life.

    No-one is telling any of us what to say, so press reports that imply that our attitudes are lead by thesite are rediculous.

    We just talk about whatever we want. People that critisise should just read the posts, in context, and they would see the kind of things that bother today's young adults.

    I'm gonna go now, otherwise I'll really start to ramble

    <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;
    j9

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by j9j9:
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    you can't blame it on the grownups all the time lol. Every generation has to find it's own way. If parents were more strict and made more restraints the result would just be more rebellion taking you to the same level.

    People have changed, generation to generation all the way through history. I don't expect
    anything done by parents would change much.

    The wrong choices will always be made, they have to be, it's human nature.

    No-one is to blame.

    Never thought I'd even slightly disagree with j9 <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; ...

    We don't blame it on the grown-ups all the time and noone ever said stricter or 'more restraints': Whowhere said 'if they tried harder to help us' (my italics). Helping means better parenting to children, better advice and friendship as they grow up, helping people through the difficult process of growing up. In some ways, doing the same sorts of things that we try to do for each other on here. Ever wondered why more than average numbers of the people on here have problems, and lots of them either haven't in the past, or don't now get what they want and need from their parents?

    It's my opinion that while it's not necessarily the parents' fault (they have their problems too in past and present), what they do and how they act makes a massive, massive difference - hell, you can see that from stuff on this site. I think some parents do more harm than good, ruining people's childhoods and even the rest of their lives sometimes. If parents acted in a 'better' manner society would be happier as a whole, because parents create society's future more than anything else.

    Saying 'I don't expect anything done by parents would change much' goes against something I believe in - that trying, helping and acting on an individual level can make a difference to the bigger picture. The more people you help, the more people they'll be able to help... but never mind that, it's the principle that much of the activist and volunteer scene is built on, that individuals can make a difference. And I think they do. And I think there's no question that parents can.

    It's true wrong choices will always be made, but fewer are made when people are not:

    insecure and scared
    abused
    lonely (and desperate for love and approval)
    uneducated (this is parent's fault as well as state's, if not more so)
    mentally ill

    And I say that all these things are greatly influenced by your experiences as a baby, as a child, and as you grow up, and that your parents are responsible for most of this one way or the other. Not exclusively or completely, but mostly.

    That's also why I personally think that teenage pregnancies are a very bad idea. I'm not one to assign blame or to be absolutist - every situation and person is different, but in general teenagers are not mature enough to fully understand the responsibilities and the consequences of how they bring a child up (though I believe love and empathy can be enough) and often don't understand themselves or the world around them fully.

    I know I don't and will still be learning for years yet - and I'm nowhere near the youngest here.

    Still think ur great j9 <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    P.S. What do people think about parenting lessons at schools?
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    JB, do you mean like when they give a child a fake baby thing to look after for a weekend? ive heard about that and think its a great idea, it would really put people off the idea that a baby is like having a doll or pet, its a lifetime committment and a lot of teenagers dont consider the consequences of unprotected sex as some are wishing they had a baby for the "novelty" value. i realise this isnt the case for all, just some, and it would make them realise the magnitude of the effect a baby would have on a teenage life. not that im an expert or anything, im a teenager myself and i know that every situation is different.. one of my friends really loves babies and so she let her boyfriend have unprotected sex with her a few times without protesting that much, coz she secretly wanted a baby. althogh shes realised she isnt ready for the responsibility after some scares and careful thought. so if thats what you mean, then yeah, good plan, if not then ignore this!!
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    i also agree with what youre saying about parents attitudes. ive been having a lot of probs recently with some teachers and stress and work and everything in my A levels.. for many reasons. anyway, my boyfriend listens and understands coz hes in more of a position i guess, and wont question everything i say about a particular teacher being terrible. my mum listens to some extent and yet doesnt really provide many solutions, but she does ok. my dad's a policeman, and very good at the "pulling strings" sorta thing, and fixing stuffwhen they get to the stage to be fixed, and helping out with meetings and phone calls and official situations, probabyl because hes used to it in his job. only he doesnt really provide any emotional support. today we were laughing and having a joke which was rare as we often have conflicting views about most stuff. we're always falling out big time and catching my mum in the middle and its all horrible. but basically, my dad doesnt seem to see that i have feelings, and that he "bends over backwards" and does all he can by contacting the school about some probs and things and trying to fix them.. but he often just has a go at me when im clrealy upset and makes it worse by his attitude, not understanding and not trying to and not accepting hes wrong, EVER. i guess im kinda like him, lol.. but he is supposed to be my dad and support me, im just a stubborn teenager! lol.. but anyway.. the other day i was really upset about stuff, school/stress/boyfriend probs/etc.. and after not trying to understand and telling me his way and demanding i do it, he goes on about how im causing everyone's stress, my mum's eczema flaring up on her legs (which is more likely caused by the atmosphere when he causes scenes and we dont get on), and how if he had a heart attack tomorrow and died, he would blame me. and he never apologised, i think thats terrible coming from someone meant to be supporting me, not making me worse. ive been really depressed recently, he definitely doesnt help and cant see hes doing anything wrong, even when mum and i and him have discussios, it ends up the same as always, him being nasty and upsetting me and then makign it worse and worse while i sit there crying. anyway ive gone off the track a bit.. he just thinks hes the perfect parent coz he pulls a few strings, he doesnt seem to realise that much more importantly is to support children, just coz im 18 doesnt mean i can suddenly need no help from anyone, and he jsut doesnt grasp that. sorry, its turned into a bit of a rant and not particularly on topic! just had to get that out. this hasnt got much "white space" either has it, whoops! hope i havent bored you all to death...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Girl-From-Mars:
    JB, do you mean like when they give a child a fake baby thing to look after for a weekend? ...

    Maybe stuff like that, though I was actually thinking about parenting lessons in the same way we have sex education nowadays. You know in some areas the government's been running 'better parenting' courses for parents to help them deal with their kids better, and courts are allowed to force parents to attend. Apparently women respond very positively to them and find it useful, men tend to try and get out of it or be uncooperative (lazy bastards).

    Anyway, giving some sort of similar lessons at schools might head this off earlier(?). It might also help some children understand the problems their parents have with them better as well. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    Just my thoughts.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by JB:
    Never thought I'd even slightly disagree with j9 <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; ...


    I knew I shouldn't have been writing that so late, & I probably shouldn't be writing this so late either lol.

    But what I was trying to say (I think) is that people, in general, will always make mistakes, they will always go against their parents ideals, especially at important times in their lives.

    The majority of parents try to do the best for their children, they try to guide their children towards making the right life choices, but children will always rebel against adults, no-matter what we do. I understand that it is an important part of growing up.

    I think that parenting classes are a good idea, after all, the only preparation we have to be good parents, is what is passed on by our parents!!!

    When I said "I don't expect anything done by parents would change much" maybe I was being a bit to general. Of course we make a difference to individual children, but I think that unless ALL parents take the same interest & ALL give the right guidance, it's not going to make a difference to the trends of society. Maybe I was completely 'off topic' (I was tired). I just re-read this & it still doesn't get over what I was trying to say.

    Oh god, I just seem so inarticulate at the moment.

    Oh well, never mind, I know what I mean & I'll carry on trying as hard as I can to be the best parent I can to my children, I just know that they are going to rebel & ignore my advice at some point anyway. I just hope that all the groundwork will bring us out the other side without too many problems & hangups.

    <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; j9


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