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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Hi, I'm new to this forum business - but I need your help!
I wanna know what you think of sex education that you had/have at school?
Was it any good? Or did you get a better deal elsewhere? Where are schools going wrong and what needs to be done to get in tune with what young people REALLY think about sex.
I know that at my school they just went into the logistics of the whole thing, but nothing on the emotional implications of embarking on a sexual relationship.
what do you reckon?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Wind:
    Hi, I'm new to this forum business - but I need your help!
    I wanna know what you think of sex education that you had/have at school?
    Was it any good? Or did you get a better deal elsewhere? Where are schools going wrong and what needs to be done to get in tune with what young people REALLY think about sex.
    I know that at my school they just went into the logistics of the whole thing, but nothing on the emotional implications of embarking on a sexual relationship.
    what do you reckon?

    There are a few posts on sex education in te Teen Pregnancy thread, just click on the URL below and, as if by magic, you will be taken there. http://www.thesite.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000300.html

    Sex education was pretty basic when I was at school (back in the dark ages lol). We were told about different forms of contraceptive & different STDs. I can't remember being told about the mechanics, but I knew it by then anyway which is probably why I don't remember.

    I said to my Mum once "it's odd you know, I can't remember ever being taught about sex, but I can't remember ever not knowing". She said it was because she answered my questions honestly, when I asked, as I was growing up. So we never had to have "the talk" and I got the answers I needed when I was ready for them, including the emotional stuff.

    I'm using this approach with my kids & it seems to be going well.

    I expect you'll get a response from quite a few people, welcome to the forum.

    J9

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sex education at my school is practically non-existant. Like I've said before we had 45 minutes of crap when we were 14, which is pathetically late. One of the P.E. teachers struggled to put a condom on a carrot, much to our amusement. She went bright red and stuttered when she said 'penis'. It was ridiculous. We learnt nothing, except that condoms don't go easily onto carrots. Such useful information. Kids should be taught about sex from the beginning of junior school as, whether parents like it or not, that is the age when kids generally start hearing about it.

    My parents asked me when I had 'the talk' if I knew anything. Obviously I lied, because, like most parents, they were hidiously embarrassed and I really didn't want to make a bad situation worse! Kids lie about sex. Most of the time, that's due to parents' attitudes towards it. If sex is a taboo subject for adults, then it's obviously going to rub off on children. I praise you, J9 for answering their questions, hopefully they'll benefit from it!

    I think it's a lot better if young children are told by their parents, as they'll hear things in the playground that sound terrifying and could cause all sorts of problems! At home, many parents will automatically flick over channels if they see a love scene, which confuses the child. Of course you don't want them to be watching porno films, but it's better if you explain it a bit and give them the opportunity to ask.

    *|* Chica *|*


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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Here's an article with some more comments about sex education:
    http://www.thesite.org/sex/general_sex/sex_ed_is_it_any_good.html
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Chica:
    Sex education at my school is practically non-existant. Like I've said before we had 45 minutes of crap when we were 14, which is pathetically late. One of the P.E. teachers struggled to put a condom on a carrot, much to our amusement. She went bright red and stuttered when she said 'penis'. It was ridiculous. We learnt nothing, except that condoms don't go easily onto carrots. Such useful information. Kids should be taught about sex from the beginning of junior school as, whether parents like it or not, that is the age when kids generally start hearing about it.

    My parents asked me when I had 'the talk' if I knew anything. Obviously I lied, because, like most parents, they were hidiously embarrassed and I really didn't want to make a bad situation worse! Kids lie about sex. Most of the time, that's due to parents' attitudes towards it. If sex is a taboo subject for adults, then it's obviously going to rub off on children. I praise you, J9 for answering their questions, hopefully they'll benefit from it!

    I think it's a lot better if young children are told by their parents, as they'll hear things in the playground that sound terrifying and could cause all sorts of problems! At home, many parents will automatically flick over channels if they see a love scene, which confuses the child. Of course you don't want them to be watching porno films, but it's better if you explain it a bit and give them the opportunity to ask.

    *|* Chica *|*



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    ha ha ha condom on a carrot! I feel the same way as chica on this one. We had one lesson at about the age of 14 and it was a pile of pants! Made worse by the fact we were with boys and like most 14 year old boys they pissed about and got embarrassed, making it hard to concentrate. I learnt nothing about sex from my class at school, and instead got more outta my mum, friends, magazines and experiance (ha ha ha).
    Welcome to the site by the way
    wind <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well, yes sex education in schools requires much attention, although this "wind" appears to have missed the fact that the logistics are taught in GCSE Science and before in fact now, perhaps she should consider asking in primary schools in her local area - the secondary schools are probably quite useful really although she should be ready for silly comments like "I am not in a position to comment on that", "I am only an expert on solo-sex", etc. She appears to be on the ball with this business and I would be grateful to help her in any way given my involvement in giving teens education on sex and the related issues teens! Particularly interested in current concepts of masturbation and its place in sex education is secondary schools! Its good to know the world is interested in research of the type...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Huh?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ditto lolly
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    did you not appreciate my educated response peopel like lolly and turtle??? I felt I had much to offer to wind but if she does not want my help then I shall take my knowledge elsewhere, and the secrets of masturbation with me!!! (it seems you like joking here so there you go that is my attempt!!!)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thanks peeps, some really helpful stuff here!
    As you may have guessed I am planning on being a teacher and the whole sex education business scares me slightly, I mean how far do you go, in what detail to primary kids?
    I am don't agree with the idea that teaching students about sex will just make them go and do it, surely you can never have enough info and it best to be safe, but there are some impressionable kids out there who don't get the support from home.
    Keep ideas coming in, cheers!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    the sex education i had at my school wasnt very much help, we didnt get taught everything that u need to know about sex!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hi everyone - its interestin to find out what kind of sex ed u all had - cos mine was shit!!
    Yeah ok the girls learned about periods - they continually told us EVERYTHING about that - so much infact that it became possitively tedious! but as for SEX education - we got nothing, ziltch, nada, none!!
    Thats why i asked who read more magazine becuase if it wasnt for that i wouldnt know anything!!
    Im way too embasrrased to talk about sex with my parents - its not that i dont get on well with them its just that id feel wierd about it!
    I duno - sex education should be equal in all schools cos as it stands some are particuarly good and others do none! And they wonder why we have so many teen pregnancies in this world!! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/mad.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My school did sex education when I was 14 most of them had done it a hundred times by then anyway.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    All we had was "label a womb" or "fill in the gaps" ect.
    Nothing about how to say no or about teenage pregnancies.
    It was basically an extention of biology.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    1 thing I do remember though, was when a teacher told us to get a mirror and "have a good rummage" to find out about down below.
    We well pissed ourselves laughing! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    We got sex ed when we were 14/15.
    It was rather ridiculous cos loads of people had been at it for ages by this point.
    Though it was quite amusing when we had to stick a condom on a cucumber and a friend of mine ended up breaking the cucumber!!!
    I just felt sorry for her boyfriend!!!!!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sex ed at the two school's i have been too have not been too bad. at my middle school they started teaching it in year 5 (which means i was 9/10). Of course, we were not told how to use the condom or anything (no need for it), but we were told what bits go where, although they used to show the same video every year, and now at the school im in now (im in year 11), although i dont see the point in it now, cause most of what i need to know i already know, for eg 'never go deep sea diving without a wet suite'. Get it?? hahaha! For all u thick people out there, it means always use a condom

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Recent research suggests that most young people want to here about sex from their parents!
    Is this the case for you? (I died of embarassment when, before I came to uni, at the age of 18 my mum sat me down and gave me a pack of condoms)
    Did/do your parents talk to you about sex and do you think this is the best way to learn?
    Or is there a better way, school, magazines, tv, mates??
    What d'ya reckon??
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    magazines is a good way to learn without embarrassment, coz it gives you often reliable information in an easy to understand format for people and it involves it with all other stuff liek fashion tips, etc, so its somethign everyoen reads. usualyl most teenages (ok usually girls) read these mags and so they will get to find out stuff, i learnt most about contracepttion from mags like sugar, bliss, j17.

    parents - now thats just incredibly embarrassing, for both parties, my mum once forced me to read this book about ANIMALS, and there was one page at the back about humans, i think it was meant for people a lot younger! and i already knew it all by the time they got roundto mentioning it. my younger brother is gnerally mroe open i guess, just blurts out al this stuff and embarrasses my mum!

    i think school is a good way because you get to learn about it with your peers and although some people can make it silly, like immature boys giggling, you do learn some stuff. we never got the vid of a woman in labour for some reason, and i think the demonstration of how to put a condom on would be helpfull! although probabyl embarassing and not that realistic. but thigns like knowing you can get pregnant the first time, you should use protection at all times of the month, etc, seems to have been lost on a number of people at my school, with several pregnancies i know of, and several scares for one naive friend.

    now my mum sort of does talk about it with me becuase recently ive gone on the pill and talked ot her about it. and so now we can more openly discuss thigns like periods and things, more so than when i started and didnt even tell her, about 5 years ago! but unless parents are very open with their children and talk about sex with them throughout their life (like i think J9 and gwaimui have said they are doing with their children? i may be wrong), it can be very embarassing to discuss it with them when you reach puberty.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The sex-ed I had was ok. The teachers tried their best to explain about the relationship side, telling us to wait until we felt ready e.t.c. They did the whole condom thing to, and showed us a film of a woman giving birth, which i think put a lot of people off the idea!
    Just out of curiosity, u arent working for the government are you Wind??? Your question sounds very "official" if u ask me. Then again Im very paranoid and one of the few people who realises how much they control our lives AAAAGGGGGHHH lol.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My sex education was channel 5 at approximately 11pm

    The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched - they must be felt with the heart.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My "real" sex ed was a video called "The lover's guide" when I was 14. I never used the information until I was 17, but boy was it useful! Apart from that Granada Men and Motors is pretty useful

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My "real" sex ed was a video called "The lover's guide" when I was 14. I never used the information until I was 17, but boy was it useful! Apart from that Granada Men and Motors is pretty useful

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere:
    Just out of curiosity, u arent working for the government are you Wind??? Your question sounds very "official" if u ask me. Then again Im very paranoid and one of the few people who realises how much they control our lives AAAAGGGGGHHH lol.

    Don't worry Whowhere, I am not from the govt!
    I am a final year undergraduate and am writing an essay on sex education.
    My lecturer recommended thesite to me as part of my research, when I discovered I could actually ask the REAL people out there what they REALLY thought.
    And I must say it has been extremely helpful to compare your views with those of the people in charge of sex eductaion curriculum. There is quite a difference between what young people want and what they actually get.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Girl-From-Mars:


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    but unless parents are very open with their children and talk about sex with them throughout their life (like i think J9 and gwaimui have said they are doing with their children? i may be wrong), it can be very embarassing to discuss it with them when you reach puberty.

    My Mum was open about sex as we were growing up, answering questions as they were asked.

    When I was about 12 I can remember her putting a packet of sanitary towels in the bottom of my wardrobe and saying to me "they're are for when you need them, just let me know when you need some more". When I told her I did, she knew that I had started. It was so easy, but - I could never talk to her about sex, now I am an adult! Is that strange?

    j9

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My mum's always been pretty good: told me about sex first when I was about 4, doesn't get embarrased that easily (unless you know how to get to her), always made clear she'd be happy to talk about anything I wanted to know about. She used to work at Brook Advisory Service (or whatever it's called) so I guess I'm lucky.

    School was pretty bad though not the worst I reckon. I think they were a bit cautious about the formal sex ed. they presented because it's quite conservative (little c and big C) down South and some parents are a bit protective and old fashioned. Quite a few of the teachers were quite relaxed about it all though and would give advice if people wanted it.
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    i guess you were lucky with your mum then J9, my mum was brought up with a really strict father and i think that sort of questions were frowned upon, and so she never really knew anything until she got out there and experienced it. although its not really like that with me, she did get me some sanitary towels when iw as about 12 too, and she said in a sort of "oh my god this is so embarrassing maybe she wont notice im saying this but i have to" way, that she woud answer any questions i had about it. well i just sort of didnt tell her about my periods until i went to the docs a few months later with her and i got asked if id started.. so i said yes and my mum was really shocked! but after that it was sort of easier to talk about periods i guess... and more recently its become easier, i wouldnt talk to her directly about sex i dont think, she'd be mortified! but we have talked about things like that sometimes.. just the right moment really i guess and the way you go about discussing it.

    i think im going to have to decide to tell my children anything they want to know about sex whenever they ask! and be open with them which is a lot better. bet i get all embarassed now though! not that i can see myself having children much before im 30...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    About 2 or 3 years ago I was on holiday in England (I was about 11 or 12) and my brother, my 2 cousins and I were watching friends. They came out with the word 'condom' and no one would tell me what it was <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/confused.gif">. Thanks to my parents and my sex education at school I had no idea. The only thing they told me that it was something to do with 'sex'. I ran to my mum and asked her 'what's sex?'. Right now I think about it and I would have rather waited - it was the most embarrasing lecture of my life <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/eek.gif">! All through primary school I didn't learn anything, and then going into secondary school the teachers told us that they weren't allowed to say anything because mothers had complained in the past (I live in the U.A.E. and go to an Arabic school). Last year, in year 9, we labled diagrams of both the male and female reproductive systems and learnt a few words like 'sperm' and 'semen', but nothing about the dangers of sex, and how to prevent yourself from falling pregnant or catching diseases. They never told us when we should have sex and for which reasons. For the Arabic girls in my class this was fine because their lives are planned out for them from birth, but for me - I had no clue what to do <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/confused.gif">. I am 14 now, and the only way I have found out properly about sex was by comming on the net and speaking to people. Sex education is useless - we shouldn't have to find out for ourselves.
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    thats awful Tara.

    i think the sort of religions that ban sex education, or the use of condoms or methods of contraception (ie the catholic church) should really consider how this will affect people, especially young girls who are maybe going to put themselves at risk from STDs or pregnancy from not knowing and not being allowed to use contraception.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The really great thing about this place Tara is that you can ask WHATEVER you like, and as long as it's not your first post to the forums, you will get all sorts of answers.

    Some of them helpful & some of them downright silly & you can sit there & sift out what you need to know.

    In the press we were portrayed as some kind of filth, but we are just ordinary people who are prepared to be open, rather than sniggering behind cloed doors.

    I think that the forums ought to be printed into a book and published annually. The rest of TheSite could be included at the end, for people to find other stuff that hasn't been mentioned here.

    I think it would make a best seller, especially with all the bad press. Maybe it would be banned & then it would sell even more copies!! lol

    j9
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