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why i hate being classed as an ex pat.
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i've lived out here now for 2 years. i've never taken up a place in a spanish school, i have private medical insurance, i don't think i have really taken anything out of the spanish economy.
but there are so many people who come out here, without knowing any spanish, no wish to intergrate. yet more thousands come here every summer to get rat arsed, and end up in hospital.
more and more people are coming every year, and unlike the skandinavians, and the dutch, and germans, they don't seem to want to intergrate.
taken from another post i worte: people are draining their resource, taking their places in local schools, driving people out of there own villages, complaing of noise when they are practicing flamenco, disliking the food. and making a general nusance of themselves. take take take and no giving back.
i hate it. i really really do. and people just give people like me and my mother who runs 2 businesses that give something back to the community, and take an active part in the community.
but there are so many people who come out here, without knowing any spanish, no wish to intergrate. yet more thousands come here every summer to get rat arsed, and end up in hospital.
more and more people are coming every year, and unlike the skandinavians, and the dutch, and germans, they don't seem to want to intergrate.
taken from another post i worte: people are draining their resource, taking their places in local schools, driving people out of there own villages, complaing of noise when they are practicing flamenco, disliking the food. and making a general nusance of themselves. take take take and no giving back.
i hate it. i really really do. and people just give people like me and my mother who runs 2 businesses that give something back to the community, and take an active part in the community.
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Though on the issue of tourism, really, it's part of it, and with an E111 nothing is taken from the spanish authorities anyway.
exsept valuable time in a&e (urgencias here), which could be used on saving someones life, rather than helping some sunburnt pratt thats drunk too much.
personaly, i think it is starting to get better. last summer loads of people moved over here thinking they could live the easy life off their savings and not bother with the language and stuff. worked illegaly if they did work and so many people have now gone bakc because the money has run out.
i speak quite a bit of spanish, enough to have a good convo with someone and stuff, but it awful the fact that some english resturants in fuengirola don't have the menu in spanish, and the council had to lay it down as a new by law.
i don't often find it to that exent, but then again i'm sure that would be the problem if the spanish alphabet was much more different
yeh you dont realise that doctors are not supposed to get into political arguments like this, they treat the patients that come in the door, the problem would be with the hippocratic oath not the drunken sun burnt fools, and do you really think that they are going to deal with someone that has sunburn, buy using a highly skilled doctor who does live saving things in a particular area
we have the same thing here. it's quite sad.
anyone who's been (sober) to a+e late at night will know what i mean. 80% of the people there have either just drunk too much, drunk too much and got into a fight, or drunk too much and fallen over in a pile of bottles.
but i'd say we have a similar immigration problem here. i'm a third generation immigrant, and my grandparents came here with nothing at all. and they worked their asses off to get the things that they had. and they learned the language, and they respected the law/culture. so it kind of pisses me off when immigrants (and it's only a minority) come here and expect everything to be handed to them on a plate, while having little or no respect for the way we live.
i guess it's the same story everywhere.
Agreed totally, same thing with me and my family.
But then my family and friends tell me they are actually quite pleased with such arrangements... that way the low-brow, uncultured masses who behave like louts and/or refuse to respect and learn about the local culture stay in one spot, leaving the rest of the land uncontaminated.
And the conscious, caring, respectful British residents, such as twisted_trinity seems to be, can also live in peace amongst the Spanish, and away from the low-brow lot.